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If Lindy Goes To CBJ This Is What The Return Should Be At Least

Created by: TheLand
Published: Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Lindholm, EliasCalgary FlamesNHL5%$4,582,729011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Sillinger, ColeWaivers ExemptColumbus Blue JacketsMinor-$0011---0000--
Ceulemans, CorsonWaivers ExemptColumbus Blue JacketsMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Columbus Blue JacketsCBJ)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial-$213,333214363369
Change$4,582,729-111100
Final$4,369,396 (↑)20 (↓)44 (↑)64 (↑)4 (↑)69000

Logo of the Columbus Blue JacketsColumbus Blue Jackets

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Sillinger, ColeWaivers ExemptColumbus Blue JacketsMinor-$0011---0000--
Ceulemans, CorsonWaivers ExemptColumbus Blue JacketsMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Columbus Blue JacketsCBJ)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Lindholm, EliasCalgary FlamesNHL5%$4,582,729011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$4,729,1672144623612
Change-$4,582,7291-1-1-100
Final$146,438 (↓)22 (↑)43 (↓)61 (↓)2 (↓)612000
Jul. 28, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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With our without an extension in place?

With: this is probably close to it

Without: this would be an overpay for a1 year rental
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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When was the last time a UFA returned (basically) three 1sts in value?
Jul. 28, 2023 at 1:33 p.m.
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Quoting: penguinswin
With our without an extension in place?

With: this is probably close to it

Without: this would be an overpay for a1 year rental


Would be with an extension. Let's say 9.25 x 8 years
Jul. 28, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.
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He'll be 30 when that new contract starts. Something to think about.
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Flames fans are in despair, they got a fringe 3rd liner and a ****ty 3rd round pick for a 73 point player and their best scorer. Flames aint getting near 3 firsts in value for lindholm maybe a first and like an okay prospect if it goes well, if not looking at a repeat johnny or Toffoli situation
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.
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Quoting: TheLand
Would be with an extension. Let's say 9.25 x 8 years


This is a pretty good trade for both sides, but the extension would need to be in the $8-8.5 range.
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Jul. 28, 2023 at 4:58 p.m.
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Quoting: Dutchies
This is a pretty good trade for both sides, but the extension would need to be in the $8-8.5 range.


Agreed I went over board with 8 years. Maybe 9 x 6 years
Jul. 28, 2023 at 5:31 p.m.
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I'm not against trading for Lindholm but it's gotta be good value. He's not a 100pt player, so you don't pay like he is. I'd say something like Peeke, Sillinger, and 2nd
Jul. 28, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.
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When was the last time a UFA returned (basically) three 1sts in value?


When he's not a UFA. Lindholm won't be UFA for another year. If he agrees to extend with the acquiring team they'll pay full price not a rental price. Matthew Tkachuk returned more than this proposes.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 8:25 p.m.
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When he's not a UFA. Lindholm won't be UFA for another year. If he agrees to extend with the acquiring team they'll pay full price not a rental price. Matthew Tkachuk returned more than this proposes.


He's already an impending UFA, right now. You'd be trading a guy on an expiring contract, in his final season. A year from now, if he has not re-signed with Calgary, you can't trade him at all. He's already gone.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 8:56 p.m.
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Main reason to trade for him now would be to get the eight-year deal at a lower AAV, with the thought you could buy out the last two years or so if needed (see: Severson). Using that as reference, I still think this is a bit of an overpay. Sillinger (a recent top 12 pick), Mateychuk, the ‘24 1st round pick all seem too rich for a pending UFA. Ceulemans or Chinakov, Peeke/Knazko/Svozil/OBH, and a 2nd & 5th or 3rd & 4th (plus even Bemström and Bjork/Berni) aligns more properly.

If a 1st is involved, ‘25 or beyond makes more sense as well. Might not be everything Calgary wants, but it would be the most equitable for Lindholm given his ability, age, and contract status.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 8:59 p.m.
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Flames fans are in despair, they got a fringe 3rd liner and a ****ty 3rd round pick for a 73 point player and their best scorer. Flames aint getting near 3 firsts in value for lindholm maybe a first and like an okay prospect if it goes well, if not looking at a repeat johnny or Toffoli situation


Dude. There's really no need to pretend like Sharangovich is dime a dozen trash. He ain't. I suspect this trade may not age the best, just fair warning.
Jul. 28, 2023 at 10:48 p.m.
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Agreed I went over board with 8 years. Maybe 9 x 6 years
THat they might just do, esp with the planned increase cap over the next few years. They have to keep in mind that they have some great young studs that will need big raises over the next couple years
Jul. 29, 2023 at 3:41 p.m.
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Quoting: TheLand
Would be with an extension. Let's say 9.25 x 8 years


Yikes; that's a little pricey for that term. If that's the price I think CBJ passes. If it's 9M x 5, or 8M x 8, then maybe
Jul. 29, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
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Quoting: PuddyDevil
Flames fans are in despair, they got a fringe 3rd liner and a ****ty 3rd round pick for a 73 point player and their best scorer. Flames aint getting near 3 firsts in value for lindholm maybe a first and like an okay prospect if it goes well, if not looking at a repeat johnny or Toffoli situation


That's why I asked about the extension
Jul. 31, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: penguinswin
Yikes; that's a little pricey for that term. If that's the price I think CBJ passes. If it's 9M x 5, or 8M x 8, then maybe


Yea I replied to Dutchies about it. I think 9.25 x 5 years would work
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