Pinto can't be offer sheeted.

Why not?

Pinto isn't worth $4.2M.

Why the hell not?
He isn't getting offersheeted but that is not the same as he can't be offersheeted.

My mistake, he is in the group 10.2(c)



Dude, you don’t know how offer sheets works

I messed this one up since Pinto can’t be offer sheeted, but you always overpay the guy so the other team don’t match

Look at Kotkaniemi, one year 6.1M

That’s what it takes to get a player via offer sheet

No he’s right, no one CAN offer sheet Shane Pinto

But then you still have to pay him $4.2M for 2 years. Hawks aren't doing that.

He is a 10.2 RFA meaning he has not played enough professional games to attain group 2 RFA status due to injury and late addition in his first year. Therefore cannot be offer sheeted.

They would probably prefer a 1-year deal so that they can lock him up sooner rather than later if all goes well. The extra 4.2M probably comes down to whether ownership is willing to give him 8.8M over 2-years just to acquire him. I would guess that you are right that they wouldn't fork up that money. They might do more like 5M to secure him but the extra year is possibly a disservice to them if things do work out.

Over 4.2M it’s a 1st & a 3rd
I’m staying at a 2nd round pick

Pinto is worth easily 3M
You guys pay guys like Foligno & Perry 4M but they are worth 775K
But getting a future 2C 30 goals scorer isn’t worth 4.2M when you have a **** load of cap space 🤣
Dude you have zero hockey knowledge 🤣🤣🤣🤣

WHAT?!?! All of this is crazy. Future #2C??? Foligno and Perry are stop gaps. We're done with those. You have zero hockey knowledge. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Did you see Pinto play ? No, you didn’t. It’s writing all over him he will be a 2nd line Center. Foligno & Perry are stop gaps for who ? You don’t have any good forward prospect outside Reichel Nazar & Moore. Moore & Nazar are years away, paying a 2nd would have been nothing for a guy like Pinto, even if that 2nd round pick ends up being 33th OA

It's not that I haven't seen him play. I have. I actually saw him play for UND too. I was very vocal about OTT needing to get the kid signed. I don't have any issues saying he's a good prospect/player. I don't have any issues with the Hawks/Sens making a trade. I don't think your usage of Offer Sheeting is wise. I don't think $4.2M is a reasonable contract and sets a VERY bad precedent to current Hawks prospects. AND who outside Reichel/Nazar/Moore?...Bedard... So yeah...the Hawks do have a VERY young team that need veterans. YES, it was an overpay for 1 year of their services. Doesn't mean offersheet Pinto is a good idea. Straight up trade for him...sign him to a reasonable deal if you want the Bean.

I know you can’t offer sheet him, but he would cost a lot lore than a single 2nd round pick via trade. You overpaid for guys for one year, but you’ll need to overpay for vets again next year

That's your opinion, which is fine. Mine is that they're doing just fine. Things could be ALOT worse.