The True Value of Duchene

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Created by: watkinswarrior2

Team: 2017-18 Colorado Avalanche

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 28, 2017

Published: Jun. 28, 2017

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

-Sakic has overvalued Duchene so much that no other teams want to trade for him
-Jenner is a top-6 forward with potential who can play center, former 30 goal scorer and gives gives more depth on wing
-Murray may not be a flashy D-man but when healthy he gets the job done and he currently is a top-4 defenseman who is cheaper plus can remain under team control
- CBJ 2018 1st round pick (25-31 ranged pick) helps boost trade value and pick is in a stronger draft class
-The 2018 3rd round conditional pick is what can make Sakic bite (Becomes 2nd round pick in 2018 if Duchene signs extension with CBJ)
-Must overpay to bring in Steve Mason to split stars with Varlamov
-Even with these trades and signings THIS TEAM IS STILL TRASH

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Nieto, Matt	2	$1,500,000
Zadorov, Nikita	3	$2,000,000
Grimaldi, Rocco	2	$1,000,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Mason, Steve	2	$4,500,000
Desjardins, Andrew	1	$1,500,000
Bourque, Rene	1	$700,000

Trades

COL

Jenner, Boone
Murray, Ryan
2018 1st round pick (CBJ)
2018 3rd round pick (CBJ)

Additional Details:

(Becomes 2nd round pick in 2018 if Duchene signs extension with CBJ)

CBJ

Duchene, Matt
2018 4th round pick (LAK)

Buyouts

Francois Beauchemin: $4,500,000
Brad Stuart: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Cody McLeod: $533,333 (40%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2018
2019
2020

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$75,000,000	$64,681,428	$0	$1,720,000	$10,318,572

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Landeskog, Gabriel $5,571,429$5,571,429 LW, C UFA - 4	MacKinnon, Nathan $6,300,000$6,300,000 C UFA - 6	Rantanen, Mikko $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) RW, C UFA - 2
Jenner, Boone $2,900,000$2,900,000 C, LW UFA - 1	Compher, J.T. $925,000$925,000 ($75,000$75K) C, RW UFA - 2	Jost, Tyson $885,833$885,833 ($662,500$662K) C UFA - 3
Comeau, Blake $2,400,000$2,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 1	Söderberg, Carl $4,750,000$4,750,000 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Nieto, Matt $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1		Andrighetto, Sven $1,400,000$1,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 2
Bourque, Rene $700,000$700,000 LW UFA	Grimaldi, Rocco $1,000,000$1,000,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Colborne, Joe $2,500,000$2,500,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 1
	Desjardins, Andrew $1,500,000$1,500,000 C UFA

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Zadorov, Nikita $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 2	Johnson, Erik $6,000,000$6,000,000 RD M-NTC, NMC UFA - 6	Varlamov, Semyon $5,900,000$5,900,000 G UFA - 2
Murray, Ryan $2,825,000$2,825,000 LD UFA - 1	Barrie, Tyson $2,750,000$2,750,000 RD UFA - 3
Barberio, Mark $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1	Meloche, Nicolas $853,333$853,333 ($132,500$132K) RD UFA - 3	Mason, Steve $4,500,000$4,500,000 G UFA - 2
Bigras, Chris $843,333$843,333 RD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Rantanen, M.		MacKinnon, N.		Jenner, B.
	Zadorov, N.		Barrie, T.

Power Play 2
Landeskog, G.		Compher, J.		Nieto, M.
	Murray, R.		Johnson, E.

Penalty Kill 1
	Jenner, B.	Jost, T.
	Murray, R.	Barrie, T.

Penalty Kill 2
	Compher, J.	Comeau, B.
	Barberio, M.	Johnson, E.

Too much for Duchene?

Jun. 28, 2017 at 5:45 p.m.

Habs_fan31

Go Habs Go

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You will be waiting a very long time for a team to pay this for Duchene

Jun. 28, 2017 at 6:07 p.m.

F50marco

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Your still asking for too much!

Jun. 28, 2017 at 6:21 p.m.

Willian_Cardoso

Let's go Pens!

Joined: Mar. 2017

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That's a trade for a guy like Duchene or for Patrick Kane? You're so optimistic...

Jun. 28, 2017 at 6:46 p.m.

palhal

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So Duchene whose cap hit is twice as much as Jenner is worth all that. You know both players had the same number of goals 18 and, yes Duchene has 7 more assists. Wow, looks like Joe Sakic made this post.

Jun. 28, 2017 at 8:11 p.m.

Campbell

Joined: Jan. 2017

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Quoting: Habs_fan31

You will be waiting a very long time for a team to pay this for Duchene

'will be'? Already have, more than 18 months. Perhaps that's why this deal hasn't been done yet?

Jun. 28, 2017 at 9:42 p.m.

watkinswarrior2

Thread Starter

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Quoting: palhal

You caught me I am Joe Sakic
plx don't tell anyone else

Jun. 28, 2017 at 10:15 p.m.

phillyjabroni

Joined: Mar. 2017

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Quoting: palhal

So Duchene whose cap hit is twice as much as Jenner is worth all that. You know both players had the same number of goals 18 and, yes Duchene has 7 more assists. Wow, looks like Joe Sakic made this post.

hard to put up decent numbers when you are one of the only 3 good forwards on the team...can easily be a 60-70 point scorer as a #2 center on a contender w/ decent wingers.

This deal is probably too much to give up in the offseason, but if PLD isn't playing that well as a 2c, this deal will easily be a good one for CBJ at the TDL if they are serious playoff contenders...if they need a serviceable defensemen to vill the void of Murray, there are ample out there that they can trade for (Gudas/Lovejoy/etc)

Jun. 29, 2017 at 9:32 a.m.

palhal

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I'm sure Duchene had prime PP time unlike Jenner. But you are correct,Duchene might do better in difference surroundings. Still CBJ was a top 3 team in the East, I don't see how Duchene is really going to help.

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