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Initial Creation Date: Aug. 8, 2023
Published: Aug. 12, 2023
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32$83,500,000$50,195,111$0$1,152,503$33,304,889
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$825,000$825,000
C
RFA - 3
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
$897,500$897,500
LD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
$850,000$850,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$775,000$775,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$789,167$789,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$850,000$850,000 (Performance Bonus$50,003$50K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
$4,550,000$4,550,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
$2,166,667$2,166,667
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Florida Panthers
$896,667$896,667 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
LD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$775,000$775,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$809,444$809,444
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
$800,000$800,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$775,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$1,050,000$1,050,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Pittsburgh Penguins
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the New York Rangers
$775,000$775,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
$825,000$825,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$825,000$825,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$785,000$785,000
RW
RFA - 1

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Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:00 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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I think your honestly a little to high on Anaheim and Calgary
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Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:06 a.m.
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Anaheim will not finish ahead of Vancouver unless they (VAN) get tons of injuries, and the Atlantic is a bit weird too, couldn't see Ottawa passing 3 of last year's playoff teams
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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Rangers behind pens is wildddddd. And Sabres ahead of Panthers
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:17 a.m.
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I think your honestly a little to high on Anaheim and Calgary


Calgary will be better this year with a different coach. They won't be worse.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Calgary will be better this year with a different coach. They won't be worse.


Hanifin want's out and will likely be moved before the TDL, it's very likely Lindholm is gone too. they lost their top point producer in Toffoli. even with a new coach they aren't bouncing back.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:23 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Hanifin want's out and will likely be moved before the TDL, it's very likely Lindholm is gone too. they lost their top point producer in Toffoli. even with a new coach they aren't bouncing back.


Toffoli's season was a mirage and he's hardly their best player. Kadri and Huberdeau will rebound and Hanifin just isn't all that special, his loss won't matter. Lindholm as well isn't all that important, if they trade them, they'll be hockey trades where they get back decent roster players as well.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.
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LA first in their division with one of the worst goalie tandems in the league doesn't seem likely. If Vancouver can stay healthy I think they could surprise a lot of people, they're definitely ahead of Anaheim imo.

I think Detroit will be improved and goaltending will be everything for Florida, if Bob struggles they could be seriously fukked.

Can't see the Blues being second last, Nashville and the Wild could easily drop down a spot or two.

Think the Rangers will be ahead of Pittsburgh but who knows, that division looks like a real dog fight other then Philly being last.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:33 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: RipNasty
Toffoli's season was a mirage and he's hardly their best player. Kadri and Huberdeau will rebound and Hanifin just isn't all that special, his loss won't matter. Lindholm as well isn't all that important, if they trade them, they'll be hockey trades where they get back decent roster players as well.


Hanifin was their 2nd best dman last year and playing on their top pair he is absolutely going to lose to hurt, Lindholm is their best pure goal scorer if he is gone there's a zero percent chance, Huberdeau will rebound, Huberdeau's best asset is his playmaking if they don't have anyone that's a good goal scorer Huberdeau's are only going to look worse, no one is giving them are a hockey trade for Huberdeau and Hanifin they will be moved for futures, they are probably losing Backlund as well, even if Toffoli's season was a mirage where are they making up his production? it won't be Huberdeau without a center that can score. No team can lose their #1 C their #3C and their #2D and expect to improve.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:36 a.m.
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Sens, Kings and Pens are too high. Vegas too low. Canucks and Bruins should be higher. You have the Sharks exactly where they should be. I thought Detroit should be higher but I can't justify them finishing ahead of the teams in front of them.
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Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Hanifin was their 2nd best dman last year and playing on their top pair he is absolutely going to lose to hurt, Lindholm is their best pure goal scorer if he is gone there's a zero percent chance, Huberdeau will rebound, Huberdeau's best asset is his playmaking if they don't have anyone that's a good goal scorer Huberdeau's are only going to look worse, no one is giving them are a hockey trade for Huberdeau and Hanifin they will be moved for futures, they are probably losing Backlund as well, even if Toffoli's season was a mirage where are they making up his production? it won't be Huberdeau without a center that can score. No team can lose their #1 C their #3C and their #2D and expect to improve.


He didn't finish on their top pair. It was Andersson and Weegar by the end of the season. Hanifin is a 2nd pair defender. He's very much overrated. He's a good player sure but he's not elite in anyway.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:43 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: RipNasty
He didn't finish on their top pair. It was Andersson and Weegar by the end of the season. Hanifin is a 2nd pair defender. He's very much overrated. He's a good player sure but he's not elite in anyway.


He was 2nd in ice timer per game, he had over 600 more minutes playing on the top pair this year, the other pair he was mostly on was with Tanev who he himself may be on his way out too. they can't lose all these big pieces and expect to be in the playoff hunt this year.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:46 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
He was 2nd in ice timer per game, he had over 600 more minutes playing on the top pair this year, the other pair he was mostly on was with Tanev who he himself may be on his way out too. they can't lose all these big pieces and expect to be in the playoff hunt this year.


It was pretty clear they under performed last year. Expecting to not be better than last season is just hopeful for Canuck fans that want to finish closer to the playoffs than they will.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:51 a.m.
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It was pretty clear they under performed last year. Expecting to not be better than last season is just hopeful for Canuck fans that want to finish closer to the playoffs than they will.


They really didn't under perform is the issue, they replaced Tkachauck and Gaudreau with on average 50 point center and an ageing winger who was never going to repeat the year he just had, it's really not wishful thinking by Canucks fans saying a team that finished poor last year and is bleeding their top players is going to be worse it's just logical.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:58 a.m.
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The Kings, Senators and Penguins are too high. Vegas is way too low. Canucks and Bruins should also be higher.
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Aug. 12, 2023 at 10:59 a.m.
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Ottawa isn't finishing that high and as a leafs fan i doubt we finish first, i really think it will be TOR and TBL #2-#3 again Canucks and Bruins should be higher Flames and Buffalo need to drop imho
Aug. 12, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
They really didn't under perform is the issue, they replaced Tkachauck and Gaudreau with on average 50 point center and an ageing winger who was never going to repeat the year he just had, it's really not wishful thinking by Canucks fans saying a team that finished poor last year and is bleeding their top players is going to be worse it's just logical.


Sure bud
Aug. 12, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Sure bud


which part of that statement is incorrect?
Aug. 12, 2023 at 12:53 p.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
which part of that statement is incorrect?


I think you have some bias against Calgary here
Aug. 12, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
I think your honestly a little to high on Anaheim and Calgary


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Anaheim will not finish ahead of Vancouver unless they (VAN) get tons of injuries, and the Atlantic is a bit weird too, couldn't see Ottawa passing 3 of last year's playoff teams


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Calgary will be better this year with a different coach. They won't be worse.


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Hanifin want's out and will likely be moved before the TDL, it's very likely Lindholm is gone too. they lost their top point producer in Toffoli. even with a new coach they aren't bouncing back.


The bottom-4 teams in the pacific I could honestly see going any way… I know moves will happen in just going with what I see as possible with current rosters
Aug. 12, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
LA first in their division with one of the worst goalie tandems in the league doesn't seem likely. If Vancouver can stay healthy I think they could surprise a lot of people, they're definitely ahead of Anaheim imo.

I think Detroit will be improved and goaltending will be everything for Florida, if Bob struggles they could be seriously fukked.

Can't see the Blues being second last, Nashville and the Wild could easily drop down a spot or two.

Think the Rangers will be ahead of Pittsburgh but who knows, that division looks like a real dog fight other then Philly being last.


I don’t deny a lot of my takes are improbable and probably will be wrong when I look back in a year but a lot of stuff changes every year and I’m just taking a stab at what does… lol

LA-I’m betting on their Centre depth, young players taking huge steps forward on F and D

VAN-I rlly want to believe In them, and I would not be shocked to see them get the last wild card in the western conference but I still see a team that is less than the sum of their part until they prove otherwise

CENTRAL-fair point on the blues, but NSH had some encouraging signs to end last season and MIN has good enough goaltending and defensive structure I think they make the playoffs

METRO-is easily the toughest and most even division top to bottom… it’ll be crazy and it’s anyone’s guess what happens 1-8…. Pit improved a lot this off-season while NYR I think took a step back while NYI is where offense goes to die somehow…

Thanks for the feedback! 👍
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Aug. 12, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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Quoting: Scooter81
The Kings, Senators and Penguins are too high. Vegas is way too low. Canucks and Bruins should also be higher.


Something has to change tho right? Those are some of my guesses…

Quoting: Thetypicalcapfriendlymod
Ottawa isn't finishing that high and as a leafs fan i doubt we finish first, i really think it will be TOR and TBL #2-#3 again Canucks and Bruins should be higher Flames and Buffalo need to drop imho


I didn’t think TOR would be 1 either but when I made the list I couldn’t see any other team being able to rack up as many wins… Tampa has no depth now unless they have diamonds in the rough, Boston lost their top 2 Centres and I see them taking a massive step back with a lot of aging players or regression to the mean.
Aug. 12, 2023 at 8:25 p.m.
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Boy I see all of these and I think everyone's a little too high on my Avs. We are likely going to be rolling out some very green players on 3 line RW and 4th line C and RW. There's a good chance our 3rd D pairing involves Jack Johnson/Brad Hunt/Sam Malinski rotating through. We're also hoping that Drouin magically turns his issues around purely because of Nathan MacKinnon. All of these things could work out and if they do we've got the talent to roll in the Central, but I think Dallas is going to have a much easier ride to the top than we will. Don't get me wrong, I don't think we finish lower than 3rd in our division, but top spot is nowhere close to a guarantee.
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Aug. 13, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: RipNasty
I think you have some bias against Calgary here


I'd say you have bias against Vancouver when in you brought Vancouver fans into it when i never mentioned Vancouver, Calgary is an old team losing talent it's not a shock to think they will take a step back.
Aug. 13, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
I'd say you have bias against Vancouver when in you brought Vancouver fans into it when i never mentioned Vancouver, Calgary is an old team losing talent it's not a shock to think they will take a step back.


Does it really matter though? Neither team is likely a playoff team. And Vancouver isn't exactly young either. Miller is older and won't be as good as he was in his 20's. I think Calgary had a terrible system last year under Sutter and it certainly limited their team. A better system with the new coach will show improvement. I don't think Calgary has anymore that a year or two of being a playoff team and then they will have a long rebuild on their hands due to multiple horrible long term contracts.
Aug. 13, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
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PDG over PDO
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Quoting: RipNasty
Does it really matter though? Neither team is likely a playoff team. And Vancouver isn't exactly young either. Miller is older and won't be as good as he was in his 20's. I think Calgary had a terrible system last year under Sutter and it certainly limited their team. A better system with the new coach will show improvement. I don't think Calgary has anymore that a year or two of being a playoff team and then they will have a long rebuild on their hands due to multiple horrible long term contracts.


I mean Vancouver is still in the top 10 by average age so i wouldn't exactly call them old either, Miller should still be around a pp/g still Calgary is more than likely going to play a similar system to what they played under Sutter, i mean they did hire one of Sutter's assistants after all, I also just don't see a coaching change magically adding 40 points to Hubreadau's game, i am not sure if Vancouver makes it this year but I definitely think we have a much better chance than Calgary.
 
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