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Created by: V1nny83at5_F1am35_GM

Team: 2023-24 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Aug. 13, 2023

Published: Aug. 13, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Trading Noah Hanifin and Mikael Backlund to Detroit for Robby Fabbri, Joe Veleno (RFA), William Wallinder, conditional 2nd round pick 2024, conditional 2nd round pick 2025
Conditions for both picks
->If Detroit misses 2024 NHL playoffs, they can choose which draft pick to keep:
-->if Detroit keeps 2024 2nt round pick, they lose 2025 2nd round pick
-->if Detroit keeps 2025 2nd round pick, they lose 2024 2nt round pick
->If Detroit makes the 2024 NHL playoffs, they lose both the 2024 2nd round pick and 2025 2nd round pick.

We are willing to retain up to 50% of Backlund's salary if this trade can happen.

Free Agent Signings

RESERVE LIST		YEARS	CAP HIT
Sergeev, Arsenii		3	$800,000

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Veleno, Joseph		4	$2,500,000

Trades

CGY

Fabbri, Robby
Veleno, Joseph [RFA Rights]
Wallinder, William
2024 2nd round pick (DET)
2025 2nd round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

Conditions for both picks
->If Detroit misses 2024 NHL playoffs, they can choose which draft pick to keep:
-->if Detroit keeps 2024 2nt round pick, they lose 2025 2nd round pick
-->if Detroit keeps 2025 2nd round pick, they lose 2024 2nt round pick
->If Detroit makes the 2024 NHL playoffs, they lose both the 2024 2nd round pick and 2025 2nd round pick.

DET

Buried

Kevin Rooney: $150,000 ($1,300,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$77,351,666	$0	$865,000	$6,148,334

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Huberdeau, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 8	Lindholm, Elias $4,850,000$4,850,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Sharangovich, Yegor $3,100,000$3,100,000 C, LW, RW UFA - 2
Pelletier, Jakob $863,333$863,333 LW RFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem $7,000,000$7,000,000 C NMC UFA - 6	Mangiapane, Andrew $5,800,000$5,800,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 2
Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Dubé, Dillon $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW, C RFA - 1	Coronato, Matthew $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW RFA - 2
Coleman, Blake $4,900,000$4,900,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 4	Veleno, Joseph $2,500,000$2,500,000 C RFA - 1	Duehr, Walker $825,000$825,000 RW UFA - 2
Ruzicka, Adam $762,500$762,500 LW, C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Weegar, MacKenzie $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 8	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD UFA - 3	Markström, Jacob $6,000,000$6,000,000 G NMC UFA - 3
Kylington, Oliver $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Tanev, Christopher $1,125,000$1,125,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Vladar, Daniel $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 2
Zadorov, Nikita $3,750,000$3,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Oesterle, Jordan $925,000$925,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Wolf, Dustin $813,333$813,333 ($15,000$15K) G RFA - 1
Gilbert, Dennis $762,500$762,500 LD UFA - 1

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Huberdeau, J.		Lindholm, E.		Sharangovich, Y.
	Pelletier, J.		Andersson, R.

Power Play 2
Mangiapane, A.		Kadri, N.		Coronato, M.
	Kylington, O.		Fabbri, R.

Penalty Kill 1
	Coleman, B.	Lindholm, E.
	Oesterle, J.	Tanev, C.

Penalty Kill 2
	Veleno, J.	Dubé, D.
	Zadorov, N.	Weegar, M.

Aug. 13, 2023 at 6:53 p.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

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Interesting but Detroit still probably declines.
Not to critique the value, but as of right now both of these players would be rentals. This is a lot for a team that's a playoff hopeful to give for two rentals that would still not guarantee playoffs.

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Aug. 13, 2023 at 7:02 p.m.

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

Joined: Aug. 2022

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Detroit passes, Backlund is 34 and way past his prime. He holds no value for us. There has been rumblings of Detroit possibly having interest in Noah Hanifin. But i like our future D core a lot. Plus with J T Compher and Andrew Copp as our 2C and 3C respectively. We really don't need Backlund.

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Aug. 13, 2023 at 7:14 p.m.

Rattlehead

Joined: May 2016

Posts: 101

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Decline. Backlund doesn't fit at all. If we need another center, we call up Kasper.

And we are loaded on the left side.

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Aug. 13, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.

Erbas1915

Joined: Jun. 2023

Posts: 580

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Quoting: MoSeider53

I agree that Backlund is not a good fit for Detroit’s timeline because they’re still at least a few years away from competing, but saying he’s far past his prime is completely wrong. He just had a career year points wise and was arguably the Flames best forward, at worst second best.

Hanifin makes sense because he’d instantly become Detroit’s second best d-man and would be an ideal partner for Seider. And he’s still only 26. But it would take a first and two seconds to acquire him, or equivalent pieces

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Aug. 14, 2023 at 4:04 a.m.

Billy12Bob

Joined: Sep. 2020

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Quoting: Erbas1915

Detroit already have the best prospect pipeline in the entire league on LD. and we have five waiver eligible LD on the roster. Our weak spot is RD not LD.

Trading for Hanifin makes zero sense for Detroit. Why would we spend assets on the position that already is our strongest and deepest when we have big holes elsewhere? If Hanifin had been a right shooter and cost controlled it would make sense but he's neither.

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