I's way more than just hits and blocks. Brodie is our MOST serviceable DFD. Losing Brodie would be a bigger detriment to this team than most people realize. When on the ice, you barely notice him because he does most things right. He got worn out in the playoffs because he and Gio were used too much. Peeke is a Holl type player, and was heavily outscored on despite being sheltered. He's a solid bottom pair piece that hits, blocks, and provides a bit of defensive stability, not a top pair guy whatsoever.

The sheer amount of 2-on-1 this guy stops is unbelievable and is a perfect partner for a guy like Reilly. If you trade Brodie, you want a Pesce in return

brodie has been a gem for us, why are u ****ting on him? hes been our top shutdown dmen for a couple years now

AZ easy pass - AZ gave you timmons for basically free last year and voit doesnt move needle.

Not sure if link below will work or not. Brodie > Peeke, not even close but Brodie must owe this guy money - I was arguing with him in a different thread. #clueless

https://www.naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20222023&thruseason=20222023&stype=2&sit=5v5&score=all&stdoi=oi&rate=n&p1=8479369&p2=8474673&loc=B&gpfilt=none&fd=&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

I just spent hours looking up every stat on Brodie there is not 1 bit of proof to back up any one saying he is elite. Pesce, Larsson, Skej, all have better stats in every single possible way . And only 1 makes a bit more then Brodie , the other 2 make 1 m less. Zadorov stats are also a lot better except not sure he could play 1st pair minutes as he averaged 18:41 ice time. I am just tired of losing with Brodie being overpaid and not able to handle the minutes we need him to play it is a clear cut choice to move on. Leaf fans have to learn to stop settling.

Peeke isn't the answer though. I'm not a Brodie fan either but Peeke isn't close to being a top pair d-man.

Saying Peeke was sheltered is absolutely crazy. 68% of his starts were in the defensive zone and he was playing with an AHL partner or on the top pairing for 80% of the season. By no means am I saying he is a top 4 D on a team expecting to win the cup, but he is better than the numbers show last year.

I agree 100% I think he would do very well in TO. But we will see what they do . I really feel if they just try to go back with what we got now it will end up like the last 56 years. The defense needs to toughen up period, Klingberg was a mistake.

Speaking as a Columbus fan who's had to watch him for a few years now, Peeke is not a top pairing defenseman, and that's okay. What he is a solid, dependable defensive defenseman who was asked to play WAY over his head last season by a rookie head coach who was also in way over his head on a team that was decimated by injuries. The answer is somewhere in the middle. Peeke wil never be a star, but he is a much better player than he was able to show last season, especially in a real system with teammates with other strengths that allow him to play the game in a manner in which Peeke can excel. The AHL lineup of the 2022-23 Blue Jackets was not that team. He probably would thrive in Toronto on the second or third pair, especially with a partner who's more of a rover who can accept a pass. He eats pucks for breakfast and throws hits, although he's a bit of a bonehead and takes stupid penalties sometimes. And it's for this reason (plus everything JD, Jarmo, and Babacock have been saying this summer) that Columbus probably keeps him to see what he can do in Babcock's system, probably paired with Provorov.

I wouldn't miss him if he was traded, but his reputation here and among advanced stats nerds is unfair with the context of the horrible team he was stuck on last season.

It is just too bad because I agree that it would be a risk to have him as 1st pair. The very sad part is what TML should never done was sign Klingberg then we could have tried to get Peeke for 2nd pair which is cheaper and a much better fit. I don't think TML will be able to get far in playoffs with what we have on defense currently.

Signing Klingberg was a big head-scratcher for me, too. I'm also a Ducks fan, so I watched a lot of bad Klingberg games last year.

All it would take is someone looking at Gavrikov's numbers last year in Columbus and then in LA to see some context. Corsi went up 10, defensive zone starts down 16%, +/- increased 20. As you said, Peeke isn't elite, but these nerds just look at numbers and don't understand what goes into them. He is a very serviceable player and some team will love him on the third pairing.