With so many teams at the cap, it's so difficult to dump multi year non value players. Habs like all teams might have to "suck it up" with their long term contracts.
I like Nylander but don't he's worth of that contract.

Slim possibility to get Nylander
Would only do it if u guys were the highest offer,
AND he chose $$ over a better chance at winning

So still, slim chances imo

They qill all have a year left next year and MTL could STILL afford Nylander hahaha. None of them are long term. Cap is bound to increase yet again in the future which makes that contract more palatable.

TML would have probably won a cup if they didn't get screwed by the flat cap.

I don't know man... MTL is on the rise and TML are on a decline. The two team will intersect faster than you think. The cap and the years are catching up to teams like BOS, TBL and TML. It's a cycle and their turn is ending.

It will soon be OTT, DET, BUF and MTL's turn to fight for the top... not right now, but in 3 years?

Those are all things you need to consider when you sign a 7 year deal.

Maybe in 3years MTL will get a stud to consider leaving a winning team for a team that can “hopefully” win
But even that is a big maybe

MTL is still years away from competing in this division,
& quite far behind BUF, OTT & DET

As long as Matthews is a leaf... Toronto will be on top of MTL/OTT/BUF... And Matthews is only 25, he's just entering his prime and the Leafs will do everything to resign him

I’m not so sure about that. That is sleeping on the team and what they have. They will push for playoffs in 2024/25 believe it or not.

MTL isn't very good... TBH, they are a bottom 5 team... Your 2 best players would be the 7th and 8th, with Sammy, (or even 9th) best players on the Leafs and you overhyped both of them to the moon

To add, supporting cast isn't very good and Goaltending is not going to save you unlike the last 18 years

They'll be a lot better this season and in more games. Dont think they'll get to better than 75-80 points but they are young, fast and their defence will be more seasoned after the trial by fire last year.
Having guys like Guhle/Matheson/Harris/Savard back there is quite solid. They only had a dozen or so games with Guhle/Matheson healthy at the same time. That could be the top pair into the season as Kaiden is suppose to try the right side.
Goal scoring will be the issue.

OR…. this is just wishful thinking from a Habs fan
U guys have ZERO CHANCE to push for the playoffs next year

I don’t even think you’ll get out of last place in the division

Sure, a guy who scored 26 goals in 46 game would be the 7th and 8th best players... SMH

Suzuki had 65 pts playing with Hoffman for half the season.

Caufield has nothing else while having a very high shooting percentage that's bound to decrease

And Suzuki isn't near a ppg

They both are behind Matthews, Rielly, Tavares, Marner an Nylander on a list of importance

A very high shooting percentage of.... 14.1%.... that he has maintained at every level. Matthews got a 15.7%... oh no, he's bound to decrease!

Elite goal scorer are still elite goal scorers.

Suzuki for most of his career has not played with a Marner or Tavares or Matthews. He is however at a PPG pace when playing with Caufield and/or Dach.

Have AM34 or Marner play with Hoffman and Pitlick and see if he reaches the PPG lol.

nylander is gonna get called soft is two different languages now D:

16.46% for someone who hasn't hit 30 goals and his average in 14.1% (like you said) compared to 15% for someone who's hit 60...

Caufield's not elite, he hasn't hit 30 yet

1rst half of the season, Suzuki played entirely with Caufield and almost exclusively with Dach and the 3rd quarter of the season, he played with Pinard and Anderson, who's supposedly a stud, just ask Habs fans, and the 4rth quarter was with Pinard and Ylonen...

https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/nick-suzuki

In quarter 1 and 2 (where he played with Caufield and Dach, Suzuki had 37 points in 46 games, which lines up with Caufield's 36 points in 46 games and Dash's 27 points in 46 games... So your excuse of line mates doesn't do anything... With Matthews line mates featuring at most 1 of Nylander and Marner and 1-2 of Bunting, Kerfoot and Jarnkrok while playing on 1 wrist and outproduced Caufield and Suzuki... And actually, Suzuki's never played with both Pitleck and Hoffman on the same line

Lol bad faith argument - he got 26 in 46... .. that's a 46 goal pace on 82 games before they elected to shut him down for the season for a preventative surgery (not like the habs were close to the playoffs anyway lol).

Suzuki played with more than those guys as they were all injured at some point... go see habs's roster GP... Suzuki is the only one to have played 82 games. Hard to create chemistry ect.

I'm not saying Suzuki is better than AM or Marner.

Yeah, but he didn't get there and was shooting roughly 4% above his average (13.3% and 12.2% in the last 2 seasons) so odds of him continuing that pace is unlikely...

They were all injured at some point but Suzuki played with either Caufield or Pinard the entire season and wasn't a point per game pace at either half (which is why I expect Caufield's goal pace to drop as well)

I know you're not... I'm explaining why Suzuki and Caufield shouldn't be the top 2 guys bc they aren't 1st line guys on some teams

Nah his lower shooting percentage is related to the Ducharme drought at the start of the 2021-2022 season. his shooting% since MSL came in are through the roof.

To be fair - they are not top 25 in the league that's for sure (we aren't all lucky to draft first when a Auston Matthews or McDavid is available), but put any of them on a great team with good D and depth (and good support on their line), and they would probably be PPG.

Caufield if paired with McDavid, Matthews, Pettersson, Marner and/or Jack Hugues would probably flirt with the 60 goals.

Its sad to say that he is the best/most talented offensive player the habs had in the last 20 years.

The fact that the Leafs have nothing coming with a barren cupboard of prospects leaves all the leverage with Nylander. He can easily ask for 10 plus million which is the case atm. Dont see how the Leafs retain Matthews and him. The cap can only go up a max 5% next season.

AGAIN, Nylander might not stay in Toronto
But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a bunch of better options than MTL

It’s extremely unlikely the Habs get such a high profile UFA
Especially after finishing last in our division again this year

Settle down. You dont have to address someone with.. AGAIN. like you are some all knowing being. You just come off as smug.

To be fair you also do that sometimes, but I do agree with you here lol

Meh
You’re making me REPEAT myself
Idk why to tell ya??

Nylander is extremely unlikely to sign with the Habs
I don’t KNOW that- it’s my opinion
Best i can do for ya
If u don’t like it, idc…. use the ignore button if u can’t handle it
I’m not being rude, u just don’t like what I’m saying bc i disagree with you

His shooting percentage was already dropping (Midway through the season, Caufield was shooting 20%+)

I mean MTL did have the oppurtunity to draft Cooley and they still have Hudson and Reinbacher coming through

Disagree, the difference with the game now is that you have to create your own goals/plays... Matthews and McDavid are 2 of the best offensively at doing that, meaning the only 2 that could get Caufield to flirt with 50 would be those 2

Except you are speaking in bad faith. I said the Leafs wont have leverage. Nowhere did i say the Habs will have a leg up on signing him. I never said Nylander didnt have options.. Did I? And you never spoke to me directly which does make you rude. If you want me to ignore you, you're making it easy when you take something I say and strawman it while being a dick.