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Tough decisions part deux

Created by: Andy_Dick
Team: 2025-26 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 22, 2023
Published: Aug. 22, 2023
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Cap is suppose to rise significantly. A max 5% increase from year to year in the CBA. This accounts for that increase starting in 2024 and beyond.

Still many decisions to be made with new contracts due to their centers Draisaitl, McLeod and Mcjesus in 2026.
The likely 2 year bridge will mean Evan will be unaffordable in 2 years and is the cost from not looking him up long term this offseason.
Bouchard gone to fit in Draisailt contract in 2025.
Ekholm, Kane gone the following season to fit in Mcdavid extension in 2026

No clue how the original thread got deleted, you cant stop some yahoo from speaking badly about a kid whom got cleared to play in the NHL today
https://twitter.com/renlavoietva/status/1694024042716574179
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Aug. 22, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.
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Hell nah.
Aug. 22, 2023 at 3:34 p.m.
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Hell nah.


Yeah, Edmonton for sure says no to that offer.
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Aug. 22, 2023 at 3:37 p.m.
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Kinda Tempted in theory
But reality is Hughes and Gorton are Size Queens.
The odds of them downgrading size on a PP Player for another PP Player who are both top 4 Guys is unlikely.
I mean you throw in Lavoie maybe as he'd fit out system as Armia's replacement
But you'd have to do a Mailloux and Ylonen for Lavoie and Bouchard deal selling the French Community on it
Even then Hughes and Gorton has a history of ignoring the fans and insisting their ways the right one .

Whats fair and What Realistic are sadly miles apart
Aug. 22, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
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Yeah, Edmonton for sure says no to that offer.


Both teams says no but i was talking about the habs perspective
Aug. 22, 2023 at 4:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy316
Kinda Tempted in theory
But reality is Hughes and Gorton are Size Queens.
The odds of them downgrading size on a PP Player for another PP Player who are both top 4 Guys is unlikely.
I mean you throw in Lavoie maybe as he'd fit out system as Armia's replacement
But you'd have to do a Mailloux and Ylonen for Lavoie and Bouchard deal selling the French Community on it
Even then Hughes and Gorton has a history of ignoring the fans and insisting their ways the right one .

Whats fair and What Realistic are sadly miles apart


Miles apart? Thinking one way or another doesnt make an idea outlandish in thought/theory. Its simply an idea you oppose. Dont see the need for a Ylonen/Lavoie swap, its quite inconsequential. Ylonen is a fringe NHL player and Lavoie has a chance to be a top9 player but it's hopeful at best. Still sure okay, they can do that but the French thing is always overrated. Besides trading for Drouin. They havent really gone for a legitimate French player in trade since Turgeon in the mid 90s.

Bouchard isnt small. I dont see your point. Mailloux has potential but isnt a sure thing nor is Hutson, Reinbacher, etc. The whole idea for Montreal is to use their prospect capital to upgrade talent during their window. Evan Bouchard isnt old either. This is exactly the kind of bet they have been making on players like Dach, Newhook to be core playes.

Edmonton wont have the cap. Montreal will have the cap as both teams are built differently.
Montreal can overpay the Nylanders, Bouchards, teams like Oilers and Leafs are superstar heavy thus will have to purge even with the cap increase. The Oilers will need to make low cost bets much like Dubas has had to do in Toronto. The Nurse/Campbell/Nuge contracts are immovable and they'll need to work aound the edges which unfortunately will mean players like Kane, Bouchard and an older Ekholm (unless at a discount) will need to go!
Aug. 22, 2023 at 5:31 p.m.
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might be able to keep if they dont give mcleod and brown those contracts.
Aug. 22, 2023 at 5:55 p.m.
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might be able to keep if they dont give mcleod and brown those contracts.


Ryan Mcleod is a very good player. I wouldnt be surprised to see him hit 45-50 points this season if given decent linemates with maybe a Holloway taking a step forward. Size, speed. That isnt something you let go down the middle.
Aug. 22, 2023 at 6:04 p.m.
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This isn't a tough decision from Edmonton's perspective.
Aug. 22, 2023 at 6:19 p.m.
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This isn't a tough decision from Edmonton's perspective.


Obviously knowing you. You probably feel they can acquire a 1st rnd pick for Kulak then flip the pick for Jamie Drysdale
Aug. 22, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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Obviously knowing you. You probably feel they can acquire a 1st rnd pick for Kulak then flip the pick for Jamie Drysdale

Straw man. Is that the only way you can converse?

Mailloux is a bad actor who hasn't played a single game of pro hockey yet. Edmonton has been developing Bouchard for years, and he's ready for primetime. He scored 19 points in his last 19 regular season games last year and 17 in 12 playoff games. He's a stud, he's what you hope Mailloux becomes. Since Edmonton is in Win Now mode, they reject this offer without a second thought. It's like the AGM that proposed a McDavid for Bedard + 1st trade: Edmonton wouldn't consider it for a moment. Their time is now, they aren't resetting their clock for a 1st, especially one that's 3 years out.
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Aug. 23, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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This Bouchard 2 year 3.9M AAV will make it almost impossible to keep him in 2 years when he will have all the leverage in the world and the Oilers will have about 20 million to sign McDavid, McLeod and Draisaitl even with the max cap increase of 5% per season. Dont see how it's possible to keep Bouchard, Kane, Ekholm even without extending Brown thats 2 that will be gone, for sure.
Bouchard is definitely the most replaceable at this point with Wanner and Akey coming on the right side.
This is the cost without cap flexibility.
Aug. 23, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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Girard is the weak link in Colorado's defense (both physically and in defensive ability). He's paid $5M for term in one of the worst contracts in the league. He was a big part of Colorado's 1st round exit last season, posting a team-worst 3-8 goals at 5v5.

He also had the worst on-ice goals numbers in the regular season (55-64), mostly because he got absolutely dominated by Elites. His scoring numbers v Elites were abysmal (6-21) showing he can't reliably hold down a 2nd pairing job. He gave up high danger chances like candy against Elite opponents.

Honestly his stats don't look any better than Kulak's and he gets paid twice as much. And in the playoffs Kulak's stats are MUCH better. I don't see why Edmonton would trade Kulak for Girard 1-for-1 let alone add their 1RD and a 1st. That's just insanely stupid.

Kulak v Girard playoffs 5v5

Kulak v Girard regular season 5v5


You compared Kulak to Girard. You will stoop to any level to fit your biased narrative. Your takes lack any context and you have nothing but cherry picked analytics which show zero team building thought or practicality. Every player has an excuse in your mind. Foegele is elite and the cap doesnt matter. Kulak is elite and competition doesnt matter, etc, etc
Aug. 23, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Andy_Dick
You compared Kulak to Girard. You will stoop to any level to fit your biased narrative. Your takes lack any context and you have nothing but cherry picked analytics which show zero team building thought or practicality. Every player has an excuse in your mind. Foegele is elite and the cap doesnt matter. Kulak is elite and competition doesnt matter, etc, etc

What does Girard have to do with your terrible trade suggestion here? He's not part of this AGM.

You can't seem to stay on topic. We're here to talk about hockey players, but you keep veering off and impugning other posters character instead.

The hilarious thing is you have to make **** up, using phrases such as "You probably feel" and then lying.
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Miles apart? Thinking one way or another doesnt make an idea outlandish in thought/theory. Its simply an idea you oppose. Dont see the need for a Ylonen/Lavoie swap, its quite inconsequential. Ylonen is a fringe NHL player and Lavoie has a chance to be a top9 player but it's hopeful at best. Still sure okay, they can do that but the French thing is always overrated. Besides trading for Drouin. They havent really gone for a legitimate French player in trade since Turgeon in the mid 90s.

Bouchard isnt small. I dont see your point. Mailloux has potential but isnt a sure thing nor is Hutson, Reinbacher, etc. The whole idea for Montreal is to use their prospect capital to upgrade talent during their window. Evan Bouchard isnt old either. This is exactly the kind of bet they have been making on players like Dach, Newhook to be core playes.

Edmonton wont have the cap. Montreal will have the cap as both teams are built differently.
Montreal can overpay the Nylanders, Bouchards, teams like Oilers and Leafs are superstar heavy thus will have to purge even with the cap increase. The Oilers will need to make low cost bets much like Dubas has had to do in Toronto. The Nurse/Campbell/Nuge contracts are immovable and they'll need to work aound the edges which unfortunately will mean players like Kane, Bouchard and an older Ekholm (unless at a discount) will need to go!


Ylonen simply hasnt been impressive in camp. Much of the cuts like Roy and Davidson gave better efforts. Lavoie size would be a better gamble.

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Straw man. Is that the only way you can converse?


You are in every Oilers thread with nothing but toxic and negative comments without an inch of compromise.


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This isn't a tough decision from Edmonton's perspective.


It seems no player at Oilers training camp has caused as much consternation among the fan base as Raphael Lavoie. Probably for good reason.Here’s how the situation got to this point and what could come next. https://t.co/N9ihDpgTN4

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Nov. 7, 2023 at 2:14 a.m.
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Bouchard’s lack of awareness of the danger on this play is just mind boggling. pic.twitter.com/FXGZlA8eya

— Dustin Nielson (@nielsonTSN1260) November 3, 2023

Just a refresher pic.twitter.com/CE5d7s824t

— Parker Kowall (@pdkowall) November 7, 2023

Bouchard’s lack of awareness of the danger on this play is just mind boggling. @arab05
So where are all the trolls that said Bouchard was invaluable?!? Oilers should have dealt this guy at his highest value. He's an absolute mess defensively that is costing the McDrai window. But nope cant touch this core Oilers D that has been terrible for years and only propped up by elite scoring from their two superstars!

 
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