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EP40

Created by: NHLfan10506
Team: 2024-25 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Aug. 28, 2023
Published: Aug. 28, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Using Pronman’s new U23 rankings, Canucks would be adding new #2, #3, #4 to their pool.

60. Willander
91. Östlund (+)
100. Savoie (+)
126. Krebs (+)
134. Raty
154. Lekkerimaki
157. Podkolzin
160. Silovs

Buffalo would still have a solid group remaining

6. Cozens
13. Power
27. Quinn
64. Benson
70. Peterka
80. Kulich
138. Wahlberg
139. Strbak
165. Levi
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$950,000
3$950,000
3$950,000
3$950,000
3$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$9,000,000
8$8,000,000
4$4,500,000
3$3,250,000
2$2,550,000
2$2,300,000
2$2,000,000
1$775,000
7$11,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$1,000,000
1$775,000
Trades
BUF
  1. Pettersson, Elias [RFA Rights]
VAN
  1. Krebs, Peyton
  2. Östlund, Noah
  3. Savoie, Matthew
  4. 2024 1st round pick (BUF)
  5. 2026 2nd round pick (BUF)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,500,000$86,417,737$0$2,500,000$1,082,263
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,100,000$7,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
$11,500,000$11,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 8
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$855,833$855,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
M-NTC
UFA - 6
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$886,667$886,667
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, C
RFA
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW
UFA
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 6
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 8
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
G
RFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$2,550,000$2,550,000
RD
RFA
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$2,300,000$2,300,000
G
RFA
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
RFA
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$775,000$775,000
C
UFA
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA
Taxi Squad
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$865,000$865,000 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
C
RFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
RFA
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$894,167$894,167 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$525,000$525K)
RW
RFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
RFA
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$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
G
RFA
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$775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RW
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
RD
RFA
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$950,000$950,000 ($0$0$0$0)
LW
RFA
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$859,167$859,167 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW
RFA - 1
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$836,667$836,667 ($0$0$0$0) (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RW
RFA - 2

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Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:15 p.m.
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A lot of Center depth for vancouvers future.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.
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A lot of Center depth for vancouvers future.


Not sure Östlund sticks at center, but if so, could be three good centers.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
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Canucks pass Again / Still Peety is not going anywhere.IMHO.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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Pronman should honestly be fired for how bad this ranking was
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Pronman should honestly be fired for how bad this ranking was


It was a strange list.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:25 p.m.
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Canucks pass Again / Still Peety is not going anywhere.IMHO.


Are they working on extension? I am not up to speed on how it’s been going.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:30 p.m.
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Are they working on extension? I am not up to speed on how it’s been going.


Im a bit surprised by your post.I actually thought you knew what you were talking about on here.I guess i was wrong.We both know Peetys not going anywhere.The G.M. would be fired the owner would be run out of town just for starters.Its not happening.lets at least be real.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Pronman should honestly be fired for how bad this ranking was


He’s laughable for most fans lol
Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Quoting: remowilliams
Im a bit surprised by your post.I actually thought you knew what you were talking about on here.I guess i was wrong.We both know Peetys not going anywhere.The G.M. would be fired the owner would be run out of town just for starters.Its not happening.lets at least be real.


It’s August. I have not followed every contract negotiation. And I doubt we see EP40 anywhere else for next 9 years, but we need something to talk about until camps open.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:34 p.m.
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Pronman is a dud. Also just because they would be top 5 in our prospect pool, it’s basically just a reflection of how bad our prospect pool is, not how good those guys are. You want great? Expect to give up great. Cozens or Power
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:38 p.m.
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Canucks decline. Just because those guys would be 2/3/4 in our pool doesn't mean they're valuable enough to be the big pieces we'd target in a Pettersson deal. Canucks would want the guys from the top of Buffalo's list, not the ones who aren't in the top 5.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Epic_Ninja_Dude
Canucks decline. Just because those guys would be 2/3/4 in our pool doesn't mean they're valuable enough to be the big pieces we'd target in a Pettersson deal. Canucks would want the guys from the top of Buffalo's list, not the ones who aren't in the top 5.


Disregarding total value, those 2 are for sure within the top 5 of Sabres prospects. Savoie is top 3 in every ranking, and Ostlund has been slandered way too much on HF. Just sayin.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 8:48 p.m.
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Quoting: remowilliams
Canucks pass Again / Still Peety is not going anywhere.IMHO.


I agree.
Vancouver should of trade either Connor Garland, Sheldon Dries, or JT Miller (in my opinion).
What do you think?
Aug. 28, 2023 at 9:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Vancity2196
I agree.
Vancouver should of trade either Connor Garland, Sheldon Dries, or JT Miller (in my opinion).
What do you think?

Or Myers
Quoting: Vancity2196
I agree.
Vancouver should of trade either Connor Garland, Sheldon Dries, or JT Miller (in my opinion).
What do you think?


I think pretty much every other player on the team would be traded before Peety.IMHO.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 9:28 p.m.
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Quoting: Lsendel3
Disregarding total value, those 2 are for sure within the top 5 of Sabres prospects. Savoie is top 3 in every ranking, and Ostlund has been slandered way too much on HF. Just sayin.


I'm not great with prospect rankings, so that could be possible. Always depends on what source you use. Would make it a more interesting offer, though I still don't think it would be enough.
Aug. 28, 2023 at 9:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Epic_Ninja_Dude
I'm not great with prospect rankings, so that could be possible. Always depends on what source you use. Would make it a more interesting offer, though I still don't think it would be enough.


Savoie for sure is top 5 Sabres prospect in every ranking. Tops out at 2, lowest he’ll be is 4.
Ostlund is anywhere from 5-7. But with those rankings some still use Cozens/Power/Levi. I would put him at 5/6. Krebs would be the young roster player, not a prospect. I’m not saying van will/should trade him, I’m just letting all of you know that you aren’t gonna get a teams 1,2,3,4 and 5 prospects multiple firsts and promising roster players. A mix of those for sure, but not all combined. I’ve seen Kulich (2) Ostlund (5) and 2 firsts get rejected vehemently. The only reason these proposals get sent out is because the player (EP) hinted at might be open to leaving.
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Vancity2196
I agree.
Vancouver should of trade either Connor Garland, Sheldon Dries, or JT Miller (in my opinion).
What do you think?


Option 1: Sell Garland and Miller for mostly cap clearance as the return. Spend a summer or two as buyers in corresponding moves.

Option 2: Deal Pettersson, maybe Hughes and Demko too, commit to full rebuild, spend next 3-4 years in tankville.

Option 3: Extend Pettersson, keep others, try to patch up defense, play for Wild Card spot.

Which gets them a cup sooner?
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Aug. 28, 2023 at 11:20 p.m.
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Quoting: Lsendel3
Savoie for sure is top 5 Sabres prospect in every ranking. Tops out at 2, lowest he’ll be is 4.
Ostlund is anywhere from 5-7. But with those rankings some still use Cozens/Power/Levi. I would put him at 5/6. Krebs would be the young roster player, not a prospect. I’m not saying van will/should trade him, I’m just letting all of you know that you aren’t gonna get a teams 1,2,3,4 and 5 prospects multiple firsts and promising roster players. A mix of those for sure, but not all combined. I’ve seen Kulich (2) Ostlund (5) and 2 firsts get rejected vehemently. The only reason these proposals get sent out is because the player (EP) hinted at might be open to leaving.


In my opinion, I don’t expect Pettersson to be moved at all. I don’t buy the fact that he wants to leave. People are mostly feeding off the fact that he’s said he isn’t engaging in contract talks right now. I may be misremembering, but I’m pretty sure the same thing happened on his ELC. He stopped negotiations once the season started, then they picked back up after the season was over and eventually got a deal hammered out.

If Pettersson really does want out, I think there’s two scenarios. Either the Canucks trade him in a Tkachuk-style deal, or they move him for a futures package like this. However, I can’t see them moving him for a futures package. Doing so would mean a full year down and rebuild, which will never ever happen so long as Aquilini owns the team as he’d never allow it. That leaves a Tkachuk-style deal as the other option. Most likely scenario would be Pettersson gets swapped for a deal involving another young top 6 C plus other assets, where Pettersson is a bonafide 1C while the guy coming back is a 2C, meaning the other team adds to bridge the gap in value.

Value wise this is probably close to accurate, the problem is that it’s just not a trade I can see management or ownership ever making under any circumstances, even if their lives depended on it.
 
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