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Team: 2023-24 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 5, 2023
Published: Sep. 5, 2023
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Just for fun. Actually curious to hear opinions on each trade. None of the "X team would NeVeR dO tHis!!1!!". But actually curious - if you would decline one of these trades, how close is it to being a good fit? What trade is an underpayment, and by how much? Which trades am I overpaying in, and by how much?
Trades
1.
BOS
  1. Turcotte, Alex
  2. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Ullmark, Linus ($2,500,000 retained)
2.
VAN
  1. Coyle, Charlie
  2. Frederic, Trent
  3. Grzelcyk, Matt
  4. Lysell, Fabian
  5. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
  6. 2026 2nd round pick (BOS)
3.
BOS
  1. 2024 1st round pick (ARI)
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (EDM)
4.
EDM
  1. McAvoy, Charlie
  2. Swayman, Jeremy
  3. 2024 1st round pick (ARI)
5.
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$82,290,001$4,500,000$2,050,000$1,209,999
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$11,250,000$11,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$5,250,000$5,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$1,550,000$2M)
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$775,000$775,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$787,500$787,500
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$6,400,000$6,400,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,137,500$1,137,500
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$775,000$775,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 1

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Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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The Pettersson trade is closer to the Horvat return then it would be to a Pettersson return
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:14 a.m.
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The Pettersson trade is closer to the Horvat return then it would be to a Pettersson return


So probably add in another first?
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:14 a.m.
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I didn't realize Chel allowed you to have 6 trade slots
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Kogut35
So probably add in another first?


Outside of McAvoy the Bruins don't have the pieces TBH. I don't see a world where VAN trades him for a package without a high end piece
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:16 a.m.
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Oilers don’t consider would rather draisaitl over mcavoy and I would also prefer skinner over swayman
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
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Oilers don’t consider would rather draisaitl over mcavoy and I would also prefer skinner over swayman


I'd disagree here, Edm is set with mcdavid+ on offense, and adding macavoy + swayman would guarantee them at least 1 cup in the coming year/s. I think swayman is miles ahead of skinner too. But, I respect your opinion here.
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Warpbox
Outside of McAvoy the Bruins don't have the pieces TBH. I don't see a world where VAN trades him for a package without a high end piece


Agreed. This is basically the best the bruins could do, if the EDM trade were to happen. If not, I'd do a similar but slightly smaller trade for Pettersson
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.
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Quoting: Kogut35
I'd disagree here, Edm is set with mcdavid+ on offense, and adding macavoy + swayman would guarantee them at least 1 cup in the coming year/s. I think swayman is miles ahead of skinner too. But, I respect your opinion here.

Maybe do some research and check the numbers before saying swayman is miles ahead of skinner also if anything draisaitl is miles ahead of mcavoy so why would we downgrade the team and quite possibly ruin the greatest powerplay off all time for Mcavoy
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.
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I didn't realize Chel allowed you to have 6 trade slots


I actually don't know if you can or not. Either way, a second "future considerations" trade would solve that
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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I actually don't know if you can or not. Either way, a second "future considerations" trade would solve that


Lol
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.
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Maybe do some research and check the numbers before saying swayman is miles ahead of skinner also if anything draisaitl is miles ahead of mcavoy so why would we downgrade the team and quite possibly ruin the greatest powerplay off all time for Mcavoy


Swaymans .920 career save % is better than a .913, and he has over 20 more games played. He's def better
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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The Ducks trade essentially boils down to Gibson for Future considerations.

Silverberg is good for 30 points and DeBrusk 50 this season, then both turn UFA and neither would resign with Anaheim. So yeah, that is an upgrade for Anaheim but a small one of very short duration when it comes to the two forwards.

If Anaheim's only goal is to get out from under Gibson's contract then FC's coming back is about par for the course these days. But if that was the plan he'd be traded already (IMO). The fact he's still in Anaheim means Verbeek wants real assets that will benefit the team. Not to mention the Ducks would need a starter for 60+ games and the options for that aren't great. DeSmith? Pass, he's a backup at best. Campbell? I'm sure Edmonton would love to dump that contract but then the Ducks are right back where they started contract-wise.

I don't see that trade working for Anaheim. Next summer is the earliest I can see Gibson moving.
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:45 a.m.
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I like the Boston Bruins team and don’t understand the desire to dismantle this team.

Sometimes the simplest paths are the best. I’m expecting no moves and then signing a FA next year or a goalie centered deal for a center. I’m not expecting names like Pettersson or Draisaitl.
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
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Quoting: Kogut35
Swaymans .920 career save % is better than a .913, and he has over 20 more games played. He's def better

He played behind a much better defensive team, so those numbers can't be considered definitive.
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.
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He played behind a much better defensive team, so those numbers can't be considered definitive.


Either way I’d still take swayman over skinner
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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Quoting: Kogut35
Swaymans .920 career save % is better than a .913, and he has over 20 more games played. He's def better

Either way ur crazy to think mcavoy is in the same realm as draisaitl it’s not even close and skinner would put up the same numbers as swayman with that type of defence in front of him
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Celtics21
I like the Boston Bruins team and don’t understand the desire to dismantle this team.

Sometimes the simplest paths are the best. I’m expecting no moves and then signing a FA next year or a goalie centered deal for a center. I’m not expecting names like Pettersson or Draisaitl.


100% agreed. This is just for fun. They won't be good this year, but realistically, they're 1 good center away from being a top 10 team.

I'd love to see them pull off a "risky" trade for an underperforming prospect through, someone like Turcotte or another center who's stock has dropped. Even if they end up being a bust, it's worth it.
Sep. 5, 2023 at 11:58 a.m.
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Either way ur crazy to think mcavoy is in the same realm as draisaitl it’s not even close and skinner would put up the same numbers as swayman with that type of defence in front of him


I never said mcavoy is in the same realm as draisaitl. It's addressing both teams needs. Edmonton needs to trade from a position of strength, and I'd bet a lot of money mcavoy and swayman would get them a cup, or 2/3. I'd hate to see edm continue to struggle because they're too front loaded.
Sep. 5, 2023 at 12:09 p.m.
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I like McAvoy and would certainly bid if he became available, but I'm not giving up Draisaitl to get him. Bouchard's breakout has made RHD less of a concern (although there's still room for MacAvoy for sure) and you simply cannot replace the 2nd best player in the world.

Swayman looks great but the Oilers have Skinner already and we don't think how well Swayman would do playing behind Edmonton's defense.

So Edmonton would decline. In any case, if Boston is rebuilding why would they target Draisaitl? Why trade their young goalie and their 1st? It doesn't really add up.
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Kogut35
I never said mcavoy is in the same realm as draisaitl. It's addressing both teams needs. Edmonton needs to trade from a position of strength, and I'd bet a lot of money mcavoy and swayman would get them a cup, or 2/3. I'd hate to see edm continue to struggle because they're too front loaded.


I think edmonton would have a way better chance at winning the cup with draisiatl skinner over mcavoy swayman and it’s not close draisaitl is quite easily one of the best playoff performers we have ever seen and Edmonton was also better than Boston after acquiring ekholm
Sep. 5, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
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I like McAvoy and would certainly bid if he became available, but I'm not giving up Draisaitl to get him. Bouchard's breakout has made RHD less of a concern (although there's still room for MacAvoy for sure) and you simply cannot replace the 2nd best player in the world.

Swayman looks great but the Oilers have Skinner already and we don't think how well Swayman would do playing behind Edmonton's defense.

So Edmonton would decline. In any case, if Boston is rebuilding why would they target Draisaitl? Why trade their young goalie and their 1st? It doesn't really add up.


Good take. And realistically, EDM's defense is better than Boston's with mcavoy added. I'm not saying skinner isn't good, but EDM is in a position where they need a cup caliber goalie, and I'd put my money on Swayman over Skinner 10/10 times. If EDM has Mcavoy/Ekholm/Nurse/Bouchard, that's very comparable to Mcavoy/Carlo/Grzelcyl/Lindholm. And keep in mind, it was only this past year that the bruins actually had Lindholm. It was Forbort as 1LD prior to him, and Swayman still had a .920.

I wouldn't say boston is rebuilding, they just have a back loaded roster. Trading away from positions of strength to fill a position of weakness. EDM is front loaded, BOS is defense/goalie loaded.
Sep. 5, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.
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I don’t understand why the need to discuss players that aren’t going to be traded. The only time these type of deals are considered is when a player uses free agency to force a situation. That isn’t happening with McAvoy and I doubt it happens with Draisaitl nor do I believe it will happen with Pettersson. Vancouver just has to show competence in team building to convince him they have a path.
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.
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Good take. And realistically, EDM's defense is better than Boston's with mcavoy added. I'm not saying skinner isn't good, but EDM is in a position where they need a cup caliber goalie, and I'd put my money on Swayman over Skinner 10/10 times. If EDM has Mcavoy/Ekholm/Nurse/Bouchard, that's very comparable to Mcavoy/Carlo/Grzelcyl/Lindholm. And keep in mind, it was only this past year that the bruins actually had Lindholm. It was Forbort as 1LD prior to him, and Swayman still had a .920.

I wouldn't say boston is rebuilding, they just have a back loaded roster. Trading away from positions of strength to fill a position of weakness. EDM is front loaded, BOS is defense/goalie loaded.


There are other ways to add defensive ability without trading the 2nd best player in the world though. That's where I'm at right now.
Sep. 5, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.
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The only asset that the Bruins could trade to get Pettersson is McAvoy and if the Canucks are going scorched Earth they wouldn't want McAvoy unless it was to immediately flip him.
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Sep. 5, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
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ask yourself what it would cost for the bruins to give up macavoy... thats what it would cost to add pettersson. simple as
 
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