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Team: 2023-24 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 21, 2023
Published: Sep. 21, 2023
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They honestly could finish with less than 50 points.
They don't have any offensive defencemen. They might have to run 5 forwards on both PP units. Matt Benning PP quarterback??? Mario Ferraro PP quarterback??? Karlsson scored over 20 goals last season. I don't think the 6 defencemen can even score 20 goals combined. The Sharks have some veterans on bad contracts that take up roster spots. I can't see Mike Hoffman or Mikeal Granlund being healthy scratched unless they play like extremely bad. Couture and Hertl are a good 1 2 punch down the middle but they don't have any top line wingers. Eklund could become that winger, but where does he go in this lineup. Does he push Lebanc down to the 4th line??? The blueline is really bad. Ferraro is ok, but if Matt Benning is your top RD that is a very serious issue. They also have Jan Rutta who is coming off a down year, Radim Simek who has struggled for a few seasons, and old Marc-Edouard Vlasic who arguably hasn't been the same since Karlsson arrived in San Jose. Looking at their schedule, they could go winless in October. Goaltending could be a bright spot because both Blackwood and Kakkonen are young enough to bounce back. They open their season with 4 games at home against Vegas, Colorado, Carolina, and Boston. There's a very good chance they lose all 4 of these games. Then they go on the road and play Nashville, Florida, Tampa, Carolina, and Washington. Nashville, maybe Tampa, and Washington they could steal a win, but they could easily lose all 5. Heading into November they play Vancouver at home who has owned them in the past few seasons. They play Pittsburgh at home (if Pittsburgh is on the second half of a btb (didn't check) then a steal is possible) then they play Philly at home. Philly is the first game where they have a solid chance of winning although I still think Philly still has the better winning odds. They honestly could have less than 5 wins when December starts.
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Sep. 21, 2023 at 3:54 a.m.
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Good! The shorks can use a refresher on how to lose properly.
Sep. 21, 2023 at 5:18 a.m.
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Edited Sep. 21, 2023 at 5:24 a.m.
I looked over the schedule and yikes. At best I don’t see the sharks any better than 11-20-5, and I have them closer to 8-24-4.
I do like the additions and while none come close to replacing Meier, as a whole they could provide more depth.

Granlund had 64 pound in 21/22 and had 36 in 58 for Nashville last year before the Pit trade. If he gets back to 50 points that’s a huge plus to this lineup.

Duclair was injured most of last year and wasn’t himself in the handful of games to finish the regular season, he looked more like himself in the playoffs. If he can rebound close to his 21/22 numbers (31 goals, 58 points) with say 24 goals 48 points sharks will have a stronger top 6.

Zadina didn’t look good in Detroit, but he is only 23 & was a 6th OA pick for a reason. If healthy and focused I don’t see why he couldn’t have a Barabanov type breakout with a 17 goal 40 point season.

Hoffman I expect similar numbers to last year 14 goals 30 points, though in a contract year he might see an uptick.

Eklund should make the team and I would expect Modest numbers say 12 goals 30 points. Not great but rookies usually aren’t.

I also feel Zetterlund should rebound closer to the NJD player than the guy we saw in San Jose last year.

All combined the Sharks forward group should actually be stronger than last years group even with Meier gone.


while all 7 D likely don’t hit 25 goals 101 points combined,
Thrun, Ferraro, Knyzhov, Benning, Rutta, Vlasic, and Burroughs are a better D core defensively than what the sharks had last year. a system change with more focus on being defensively sound over sacrificing D for offense should help protect the goalies and should lead to a better goals against total for the year. Negating some of the Karlsson loss.

While I do expect Blackwood and Kahkonen to have better goals over expected than last year, I don’t see either having much better numbers than in previous years. Expect both around 3.00 to 3.25 GAA and 903-894 save %.

Best case scenario for this year IMO is the team plays well despite the mounting losses, and sharks get good returns at the trade deadline for players like Duclair, & Barabanov, and possibly Sturm, Rutta, Granlund, Hoffman, Labanc, one of Burroughs and Benning. I would add Labanc, Lindblom & Kunin but they aren’t likely to garner much if any trade interest unless the rebound dramatically.
And either Macklin Celebrini Or Cole Eiserman in the 24 draft.
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Sep. 21, 2023 at 7:09 a.m.
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Quoting: Rob32sjsharks
I looked over the schedule and yikes. At best I don’t see the sharks any better than 11-20-5, and I have them closer to 8-24-4.
I do like the additions and while none come close to replacing Meier, as a whole they could provide more depth.

Granlund had 64 pound in 21/22 and had 36 in 58 for Nashville last year before the Pit trade. If he gets back to 50 points that’s a huge plus to this lineup.

Duclair was injured most of last year and wasn’t himself in the handful of games to finish the regular season, he looked more like himself in the playoffs. If he can rebound close to his 21/22 numbers (31 goals, 58 points) with say 24 goals 48 points sharks will have a stronger top 6.

Zadina didn’t look good in Detroit, but he is only 23 & was a 6th OA pick for a reason. If healthy and focused I don’t see why he couldn’t have a Barabanov type breakout with a 17 goal 40 point season.

Hoffman I expect similar numbers to last year 14 goals 30 points, though in a contract year he might see an uptick.

Eklund should make the team and I would expect Modest numbers say 12 goals 30 points. Not great but rookies usually aren’t.

I also feel Zetterlund should rebound closer to the NJD player than the guy we saw in San Jose last year.

All combined the Sharks forward group should actually be stronger than last years group even with Meier gone.


while all 7 D likely don’t hit 25 goals 101 points combined,
Thrun, Ferraro, Knyzhov, Benning, Rutta, Vlasic, and Burroughs are a better D core defensively than what the sharks had last year. a system change with more focus on being defensively sound over sacrificing D for offense should help protect the goalies and should lead to a better goals against total for the year. Negating some of the Karlsson loss.

While I do expect Blackwood and Kahkonen to have better goals over expected than last year, I don’t see either having much better numbers than in previous years. Expect both around 3.00 to 3.25 GAA and 903-894 save %.

Best case scenario for this year IMO is the team plays well despite the mounting losses, and sharks get good returns at the trade deadline for players like Duclair, & Barabanov, and possibly Sturm, Rutta, Granlund, Hoffman, Labanc, one of Burroughs and Benning. I would add Labanc, Lindblom & Kunin but they aren’t likely to garner much if any trade interest unless the rebound dramatically.
And either Macklin Celebrini Or Cole Eiserman in the 24 draft.


I always see people say we will be better defensively without EK, but who is gonna get the puck out of our zone? Where is our transition game? I am not saying EK was stellar at defense but how much can we contribute to having the worst goalie tandem in the league? I just imagine every game this year the sharks will struggle to get the puck out of their zone.
Sep. 21, 2023 at 8:50 a.m.
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it will be really important to instill confidence in younger players and not let losing games early in a rebuild have too much of a negative impact on their development. hopefully they can stay consistent with their great PK and pick up good defensive habits until the talent and offense fully arrives

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I always see people say we will be better defensively without EK, but who is gonna get the puck out of our zone? Where is our transition game? I am not saying EK was stellar at defense but how much can we contribute to having the worst goalie tandem in the league? I just imagine every game this year the sharks will struggle to get the puck out of their zone.


perhaps they switch to a system where the forwards are relied upon more, either carrying the puck or chasing after a dump-in, etc
Sep. 21, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
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It would seem the Sharks are certain to be a bottom 5 team.

That forward group isn't that bad actually but the defense is brutal and the goaltending isn't much better then the D is.
Sep. 21, 2023 at 11:32 a.m.
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I always see people say we will be better defensively without EK, but who is gonna get the puck out of our zone? Where is our transition game? I am not saying EK was stellar at defense but how much can we contribute to having the worst goalie tandem in the league? I just imagine every game this year the sharks will struggle to get the puck out of their zone.


Excluding Burroughs as I haven’t seen him play very much, most of the sharks D have a decent outlet passes and play along the boards and while none of these guys can contribute much offensively, they can hold the zone though that’s about it in the offensive zone.

Karlsson in the bad zone was barely more than a traffic cone waiting for his partner or the forwards to get him the puck. The biggest factor will be power play where I think sharks will have 5 forward PP1 and likely a battle with Benning Thrun and Ferraro for PP2 D guy.

The biggest hurdle in my humble opinion will be how does the coaching staff adjust their system to offset the loss of Karlsson.

This won’t be a good year for the sharks and 20 wins or 60 points seems like a long shot.
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Sep. 21, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
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I can't wait until next year when Hoffman, Lindblom, Duclair, Kunin, and Labanc are no longer on this team.

Going to be so exciting to watch the younger guys.
Nov. 8, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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ALL HAIL KING LOUI
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And they beat Philly!
 
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