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Zegras

Created by: GhostGM92
Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 22, 2023
Published: Sep. 22, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,700,000
Trades
1.
ANA
  1. Cossa, Sebastian
  2. Danielson, Nate
  3. Husso, Ville
  4. Raymond, Lucas
  5. 2024 2nd round pick (DET)
  6. 2026 1st round pick (DET)
2.
DET
    Future considerations
    ARI
    1. Berggren, Jonatan
    2. Chiarot, Ben
    3. 2025 2nd round pick (DET)
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    2024
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    2025
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    2026
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    22$83,500,000$83,078,473$0$1,757,500$421,527
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
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    $7,875,000$7,875,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 4
    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C, LW
    RFA - 3
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    $878,333$878,333 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
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    $1,460,000$1,460,000
    LW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $8,700,000$8,700,000
    C
    NTC
    UFA - 8
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    LW, RW
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $5,100,000$5,100,000
    C, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 5
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $2,000,000$2,000,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LW
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $5,625,000$5,625,000
    C, LW, RW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $1,125,000$1,125,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    LD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    RD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
    $6,400,000$6,400,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $4,125,000$4,125,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    G
    M-NTC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LD
    RFA - 3
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $3,400,000$3,400,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $2,343,750$2,343,750
    RD
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
    $825,000$825,000
    C
    RFA - 1

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    Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:25 a.m.
    #1
    VAN
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    Call me foolish but this is a yes if I'm Verbeek.
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 3:56 a.m.
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    Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
    Call me foolish but this is a yes if I'm Verbeek.


    I think Anaheim will look to move towards contention sooner rather than later, and unless Carlsson and McTavish are ready to be the 1/2C sooner rather than later, the trade would set them back a ton.

    In terms of the package itself, I don't know if they would want both Husso and Cossa, and maybe they would want a defender (probably an NHL ready one) instead of one of those guys.

    Value-wise though, it seems pretty good but I don't think it's worth it for Anaheim. It might be a bit off though. Personally, I see it as:


    Zegras for Raymond, Danielson, and the 1st (accepted)
    Gibson for Husso, Cossa, and a 2nd (possibly rejected)


    Op probably looking at it as:

    Zegras for RaymondhDanielson + a 2nd (might be accepted if Zegras wanted out)
    Gibson for Husso + Cossa + a 1st (accepted, although they might want a different player over Husso)
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 4:05 a.m.
    #3
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    Quoting: GMBL
    I think Anaheim will look to move towards contention sooner rather than later, and unless Carlsson and McTavish are ready to be the 1/2C sooner rather than later, the trade would set them back a ton.

    In terms of the package itself, I don't know if they would want both Husso and Cossa, and maybe they would want a defender (probably an NHL ready one) instead of one of those guys.

    Value-wise though, it seems pretty good but I don't think it's worth it for Anaheim. It might be a bit off though. Personally, I see it as:


    Zegras for Raymond, Danielson, and the 1st (accepted)
    Gibson for Husso, Cossa, and a 2nd (possibly rejected)


    Op probably looking at it as:

    Zegras for RaymondhDanielson + a 2nd (might be accepted if Zegras wanted out)
    Gibson for Husso + Cossa + a 1st (accepted, although they might want a different player over Husso)


    I may be higher on Raymond than you are. I saw it as Raymond+ = Zegras. And worried about an aging goaltender with four more years on his deal. Danielson's potential is a hard to ignore as well. Cossa is boom or bust and Husson is just a cap filler.
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    Sep. 22, 2023 at 4:51 a.m.
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    From Detroit's POV this is an absolute f****** train wreck.
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 6:50 a.m.
    #5
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    Bye bye future assets, hello a wildly overrated goalie and a player not worth anything close to that package!
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    Sep. 22, 2023 at 7:33 a.m.
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    Not sure why Detroit does either of these; Overpay like all hell.
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 7:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
    I may be higher on Raymond than you are. I saw it as Raymond+ = Zegras. And worried about an aging goaltender with four more years on his deal. Danielson's potential is a hard to ignore as well. Cossa is boom or bust and Husson is just a cap filler.


    If it includes Raymond; it's not a fair deal for Detroit. This guy hates Raymond.
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    Sep. 22, 2023 at 7:37 a.m.
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    Quoting: Prime_Jimbo
    I may be higher on Raymond than you are. I saw it as Raymond+ = Zegras. And worried about an aging goaltender with four more years on his deal. Danielson's potential is a hard to ignore as well. Cossa is boom or bust and Husson is just a cap filler.


    I'm actually pretty high on Raymond but I think Anaheim would value Zegras very highly, at minimum 4 1sts. So I valued Raymond as two 1sts.

    Verbeek is also going to try getting a massive package for Gibson worthy of an elite goalie.

    I don't think Yzerman would be the one to give that package for those two though.
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 8:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: GMBL
    I'm actually pretty high on Raymond but I think Anaheim would value Zegras very highly, at minimum 4 1sts. So I valued Raymond as two 1sts.

    Verbeek is also going to try getting a massive package for Gibson worthy of an elite goalie.

    I don't think Yzerman would be the one to give that package for those two though.


    Don't think any team would offer anything equivalent.
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.
    #10
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    Way Overpay by DET
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 10:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
    Don't think any team would offer anything equivalent.


    Possibly not, but Anaheim isn't looking to move Zegras. As for Gibson, maybe they would rather have him around and hope that he can turn things around.
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 11:00 a.m.
    #12
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    Quoting: GMBL
    Possibly not, but Anaheim isn't looking to move Zegras. As for Gibson, maybe they would rather have him around and hope that he can turn things around.


    Given that Anaheim is allegedly offering basically half of what he should be getting; doesn't seem Anaheim is intending to keep him either. As for Gibson, I think hoping he turns it around would be best given his value is probably lower than what most fans would like to admit.
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.
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    Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER
    Given that Anaheim is allegedly offering basically half of what he should be getting; doesn't seem Anaheim is intending to keep him either. As for Gibson, I think hoping he turns it around would be best given his value is probably lower than what most fans would like to admit.


    Sounds to me like Anaheim just wants him to sign an 8-year deal. My guess would be thst Zegras wants the same AAV for half the term, so then maybe Anaheim is countering with half the amount for the reduced term.
    Sep. 22, 2023 at 1:24 p.m.
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    You’re really close in terms of value maybe change the first to 24 or 25 then that will work
     
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