Just bury Mathieu Joseph

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Created by: TkachukNorris79

Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators

Initial Creation Date: Sep. 20, 2023

Published: Sep. 22, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Pinto, Shane		2	$2,000,000

Buyouts

Bobby Ryan: $1,833,333
Colin White: $875,000
Michael Del Zotto: $750,000

Retained Salary Transactions

Matt Murray: $1,562,500 (25%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
20	$83,500,000	$80,966,547	$0	$1,850,000	$2,533,453

Roster

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Tkachuk, Brady $8,205,714$8,205,714 LW UFA - 5	Stützle, Tim $8,350,000$8,350,000 C UFA - 8	Tarasenko, Vladimir $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW NTC UFA - 1
Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Norris, Joshua $7,950,000$7,950,000 C UFA - 7	Giroux, Claude $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, C NMC UFA - 2
Sokolov, Egor $775,000$775,000 LW RFA - 1	Pinto, Shane $2,000,000$2,000,000 C RFA - 1	Batherson, Drake $4,975,000$4,975,000 RW, LW UFA - 4
	Kastelic, Mark $835,000$835,000 C, RW RFA - 2	MacEwen, Zack $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 3

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas $8,000,000$8,000,000 LD UFA - 5	Chychrun, Jakob $4,600,000$4,600,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Korpisalo, Joonas $4,000,000$4,000,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Sanderson, Jake $925,000$925,000 ($1,850,000$2M) LD UFA - 1	Zub, Artem $4,600,000$4,600,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Forsberg, Anton $2,750,000$2,750,000 G UFA - 2
Brännström, Erik $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD, LW RFA - 1	Hamonic, Travis $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD NMC UFA - 2
	Bernard-Docker, Jacob $805,000$805,000 RD RFA - 2

Taxi Squad
Joseph, Mathieu $2,950,000$2,950,000 ($1,800,000$2M$1,800,000$2M) LW, RW UFA - 3

Special Teams

Power Play 1
Stützle, T.		Tkachuk, B.		Batherson, D.
	Chabot, T.		Norris, J.

Power Play 2
Giroux, C.		Pinto, S.		Tarasenko, V.
	Sanderson, J.		Chychrun, J.

Penalty Kill 1
	Stützle, T.	Kastelic, M.
	Sanderson, J.	Zub, A.

Penalty Kill 2
	Norris, J.	Pinto, S.
	Hamonic, T.	Bernard-Docker, J.

Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.

sens65

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Still a 20 man roster which doesn't work.

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Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.

GuyGuyGuy

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That would be a solution even if it’s quite disrespectful for Joseph

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Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:25 p.m.

Byrr

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If that was the solution, Pinto wouldn't have missed training camp days.

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Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:27 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: Byrr

If that was the solution, Pinto wouldn't have missed training camp days.

Dorion is trying to get Pinto to sign a cheaper 1 year deal and then get paid next offseason

Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.

Byrr

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Quoting: csick

Dorion is trying to get Pinto to sign a cheaper 1 year deal and then get paid next offseason

and how's that working out? oh...right. Pinto would be crazy to sign a 1 year deal.

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Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: Byrr

and how's that working out? oh...right.

It’s a negotiation

Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:29 p.m.

Byrr

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Quoting: csick

It’s a negotiation

One which has leaked into training camp.

Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:30 p.m.

csick

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Quoting: Byrr

One which has leaked into training camp.

They’ve said in recent days , the deal is close to getting done. Both sides want to get it done

Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:31 p.m.

Byrr

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Quoting: csick

They’ve said in recent days , the deal is close to getting done. Both sides want to get it done

And yet he still wasn't on the ice today. Actions speak louder than words.

Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:32 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: Byrr

And yet he still wasn't on the ice today. Actions speak louder than words.

It’s training camp, preseason hasn’t even started

Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.

#11

Byrr

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Quoting: csick

It’s training camp, preseason hasn’t even started

That's some serious copium.

Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.

#12

csick

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Quoting: Byrr

That's some serious copium.

Nah the serious copium is other team’s fans thinking they can get Pinto for a joke of an offer or thinking the Sens will move Joseph with a 1st

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Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:36 p.m.

#13

Byrr

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Quoting: csick

Nah the serious copium is other team’s fans thinking they can get Pinto for a joke of an offer or thinking the Sens will move Joseph with a 1st

Well the Sens have got to do something and if it was as easy as signing Pinto for 2 mil and burying Joseph, it would have already been done. They've really backed themselves into a corner.

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Sep. 22, 2023 at 2:40 p.m.

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csick

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Quoting: Byrr

Well the Sens have got to do something and if it was as easy as signing Pinto for 2 mil and burying Joseph, it would have already been done. They've really backed themselves into a corner.

They’ll have to move Brannstrom or Kubalik for nothing. Probably Brannstrom as Kleven is ready to take over

Sep. 22, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.

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Pete

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Why did they sign Tarasenko if they needed money for Pinto? And what is wrong with Joseph? If he did not meet the expectations why was he not part of the trade with Detroit this offseason?

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Sep. 22, 2023 at 4:47 p.m.

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Xspyrit

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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy

That would be a solution even if it’s quite disrespectful for Joseph

Temporary, until someone gets injured, which always happen (particularly for the Sens)

Quoting: Byrr

One which has leaked into training camp.

Maybe Dorion is a huge procrastinator we don't know but two years ago, Brady Tkachuk also missed training camp and the first 3 games of the season...

Quoting: Byrr

They've really backed themselves into a corner.

When you will have witnessed Pierre Dorion work for 7 years, you'll get used to it.

Sep. 22, 2023 at 5:33 p.m.

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GuyGuyGuy

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Quoting: Xspyrit

Temporary, until someone gets injured, which always happen (particularly for the Sens)

Maybe Dorion is a huge procrastinator we don't know but two years ago, Brady Tkachuk also missed training camp and the first 3 games of the season...

When you will have witnessed Pierre Dorion work for 7 years, you'll get used to it.

Still disrespectful even if it’s temporary

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