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Calling in Future Considerations from the Leafs

Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Sep. 29, 2023
Published: Sep. 29, 2023
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Matt Murray was traded to Leafs for "future considerations". Time to call them in. Leafs trade Martin Jones to TBL for a 2025 draft pick. Sens trade Kevin Mandolese, Jacob Larson and Parker Kelly (combined AHL salaries of $1.2m) to Leafs for Matt Murray (Leafs paying $1.2m cash salary) . THE KEY - Sens now own 100% of the Murray contract once again, so the $1.562,500 retained salary portion currently being paid by the Sens should revert back to being part of Murray's cap hit. Sign Pinto. At end of camp, place Murray on LTIR, Waive Joseph (so his cap hit falls by $1.150 m), leaving the ACSL at approx. $83.3m. When Joseph clears waivers, call him back up to play on the third line with Pinto and Kubalik, covering his additional $1.8 m cap hit from Murray's LTIR cap relief. No need to get rid of Joseph, Kubalik or Brannstrom!
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1$2,500,000
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2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$82,336,547$0$1,850,000$1,163,453
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
RFA - 1
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$870,000$870,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
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$775,000$775,000
LW
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
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UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
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UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 2
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$805,000$805,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
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UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$2,950,000$2,950,000 ($1,800,000$2M$1,800,000$2M)
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UFA - 3

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Sep. 29, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.
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I don't think they can re-unify the salary that way.
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Sep. 29, 2023 at 2:35 p.m.
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Gee, Sens kinda lost out on Murray's year long LTIR. Future considerations....since nothing was written down, Sens will have to deal with Dubas and the Penssarcasm
Sep. 29, 2023 at 2:51 p.m.
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You do understand that basically none of what you said is allowed or possible right?
Sep. 29, 2023 at 3:20 p.m.
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Leafs don’t have the cap space for that
Sep. 29, 2023 at 3:52 p.m.
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That’d be pretty clever if it could work…

And to think that Dorion spent 3rd + 7th to move 75% of Murray’s contract… lol this guys shoots himself on the foot all the time, that he wants it or not
Sep. 29, 2023 at 4:14 p.m.
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Quoting: BsInOttawa
I don't think they can re-unify the salary that way.


I do not know if you can or cannot re-integrate the 1/4 retained salary portion with the re-acquired 3/4 portion of the contract. I would seek a ruling. It is worth a shot - it saves 1.5 m in dead cap hit. In principle, why not? It is all part of the same contract for the player that the Sens originally negotiated, and the Sens would once again be responsible for paying 100%.

If this is not allowed, then I am afraid it is Brannstrom for Seeler or a draft pick and Pinto gets less

I think Leafs should listen to this trade proposal. They are going to lose Martin Jones via waivers so might as well trade him to TBL for something. They do not need Murray's LTIR relief and are paying him $1.2m, Better to spend the million acquiring some depth at the AHL level.

As for waiving Joseph at the end of camp and placing Murray on LTIR so you have a 21 player opening day roster with an ACSL just under $83.5m (including Joseph's 1.8m non-buried cap hit) - I think that is allowed under the last day of camp/Opening day cap rules. I think this would be a first for Ottawa - the Sens have always used LTIR to stay above the cap floor, not push the ceiling.

Of course, the simple answer once Kubalik was arriving via the De Brincat trade was to sign Pinto and Tatar instead of Tarasenko.

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You do understand that basically none of what you said is allowed or possible right?


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Sep. 29, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
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Its an interesting idea, but I believe its dead money whether or not you reacquire Murray.

If you traded for Murray tomorrow and put him on LTIR for 2023-24, then $4,687,500 would count towards LTIR cap relief...and $1,562,500 would remain as dead money.
Sep. 29, 2023 at 6:35 p.m.
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that's brilliant but unfortunately the league probably wouldn't be having it.

Good thing Dorion has lots of future considerations up his sleeve!
 
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