You could give much less for Armia and MTL still says yes.

A 2nd round pick for Vladar?
.894 sv% last year, .898 for his short career
What am i missing here?
How is he worth a 2nd???

Come December TB wouldn't have the cap space., and even with the retention TB isn't paying that much for him.

He thinks TB is desperate ,but doesn't realize. Jones ,Stolarz, either Reimer or Lyon,and probably Stalock are all likely to hit the waiver wire.

You could remove those assets and the habs arr still happy to accept

It appears you're the proud new owner of Joel Armia! My condolences.

Armia, if the Flames are willing to take his full contract I can’t see why Hughes wouldn’t let him go for future considerations. The guy has size, can be so strong on the puck and at times looks like one of the best PK guys I’ve ever seen but man is he ever inconsistent. He was a star in Finland and if a team thinks they can unlock his game all the power to them but his time in La Belle Province looks to be coming to an end.

Armia is a cap dump.🤣🤣 Plus why would we trade Solovyov when he has looked so good this pre-season?

As a hardcore Habs fan, and if I was Habs GM, I would decline the Armia trade.

DECLINED.

Because out of respect for my GM counterpart, that trade offer is way too awful for Calgary fans.

Ok, sure, I'll take a 3rd rounder for Armia, that's it. I would STILL feel I'm totally winning this trade on all counts.

Even for a single 4th round pick, it's an automatic yes for Habs GM.

You left out Vladar’s fine GAA and Winning Record….

Vladar’s Sv% could & should certainly be higher, but if you watched him play and knew anything about the Flames you would understand he’s much better than his Sv%

The Flames dominate the play for minutes at a time, just to have a breakdown or bad giveaway (especially at the end of a power play) leading to a shot or breakaway on net against a Flames goalie who is cold after having stood there so long with no shots or action against. Pretty hard for a goalie to stay sharp and keep their Sv% up when they just stand there and don’t face a ton of shots to begin with, but when they do, they’re high danger scoring opportunities


You forgot Louie Domingue who’s already familiar, played and had success in TB

Doubt it happens, but if we do ship Vladar in a trade to TBL, I’d like Gavle, Sweden Goalie Jonas Johansson coming back in that Trade

Armia is certainly not worth that, I’d rather sign Jesse Puljujarvi for close to league minimum before giving up any assets for Armia, especially Solovyov who is looking like he will be a very good NHL Shut Down D-Man soon

Paul Statsny (3/4C and Pelletier replacement) and/or Phil Kessel (Toffoli replacement) are the best & cheapest player acquisitions available to the Flames right now

Homerism at its very best there guy

U can make ALL THE EXCUSES u want
But at the end of the day,
Vladar is a 26year old goalie- so not “young”
Who had BAD STATS

U won’t even get a 3rd for him, let alone a 2nd

Every team in the league has a young goalie or prospect with higher upside
Only way a team wants in on Vladar at this point is if they’re desperate

He just doesn’t have any trade value

You’re so naive to believe a bona fide NHL Goaltender, who many experts believe will someday soon be a Starting Goalie in the NHL, doesn’t have any Trade Value

Were you aware that the probability of a 2nd Round Pick generating an NHL Player who will play more than 99 games is only 17.2%. A 3rd Round Pick is just 13.7%, so assuming TBL’s pick is mid-to-late in the round, the Flames would receive maybe a 15% chance of producing an NHL Player in exchange for a sure thing…

Picks are like lottery tickets, so yes, a team with specific needs will absolutely forego a low probability future gamble for something they need and could use now

For a guy who calls himself AntiAnalytics you sure like to cherry pick certain stats to hang your arguments off of.

Winning is more important than stats and that’s something Vladar does very well thank you

Winning is a team stat & Vladar is a 26year old BACKUP with crappy stats- THE END
Your “homer” take is absurd & he doesn’t have anywhere near the trade value u want him to have

Thanks for the laughs though
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Clearly you don’t know anything about Vladar, Trades or Goaltending; you’re just here to be an agitator and clown. Not gonna waste my time on you, moving on

Vladar is garbage, & so is your opinion on him
UTTERLY LAUGHABLE

I was pissed they didn't keep Domingue. All he does every where he goes is play well and get sent down

List of goalies traded recently:
Korpisalo as part of package (estimated value of abt a 3rd)
Adin Hill-4th
Vanacek-2nd
Husso rights -3rd
Georgiev-2 3rds+5th
Fluery-2nd
Wedgewood-3rd
Vanacek again-2nd
Kuemper-1st+3rd
Vladar previously with a much cheaper contract and 2 extra years of control: 3rd
Desmith: 3rd with cap dump
Ned: 3rd

Vladar isn't on the level of Vanacek,Kuemper, Georgiev, or Fluery

Adin Hill: Traded in 2021 with no contract for a 2nd and then given a $2.175mil x2yrs

Georgiev: Traded for a 3rd + 3rd + 5th (combined =2nd) with no contract and signed for $2.425mil x2yrs

Vanecek: Traded in 2021 for a 2nd/50th Overall and again in 2022 with a $3.4mil contract with a 47th Overall to move up to = FOR 37 Overall + 70th Overall

Nedeljovic: Traded in 2021 for a 3rd + Bernier (combined =2nd) with no contract and signed for $3mil x2yrs

Yes, those are all good and fair comparables for Vladar who comes with a Winning Record, Low GAA and $2.2mil x2yrs Contract = Cost Certainty. Yes, Vladar’s Sv% needs to improve, but it’s not horrendous and isn’t the only stat and factor that makes him comparable to the Goalies above

I’m not comparing Vladar to Fleury, Husso or the rest of those guys, because they’re not comparable and/or similar situations or timelines

Vladar’s value has gone up since the Flames acquired him for a 3rd. He’s proven he can Win and play solid NHL Hockey in Net 🥅

GAA lmao. What's his save % or GSAx (hint, its been -ve every year). Vladar is a bad goalie. Edit also Vladar's GAA isn't even good lmao.

Yeah, his 2.82GAA and 26W-12L-7OT record as a Backup for the Flames is just brutal hey, NOT! 🤦‍♂️

ierBackup goalies tend to play the easy matchups, a 2.82 isn't good, his save % is below .900 and his advanced stats are also not good. So the only thing you're hanging onto is record