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If we go into a rebuild

Created by: PurpleHippo
Team: 2024-25 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 3, 2023
Published: Nov. 3, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Just for fun, seeing what everyone believes their values would be.

Other people (Ekholm, Kane, Hyman) can all be moved too but didn't spend the effort to think of a good location.

I don't think we will actually do something like this, but it's fun to theorize.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$825,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,750,000
2$1,175,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
3$3,750,000
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Mercer, Dawson [RFA Rights]
  2. Nemec, Simon
  3. 2025 1st round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Draisaitl, Leon ($4,250,000 retained)
2.
3.
EDM
  1. Benson, Zach
  2. Kulich, Jiri
  3. Östlund, Noah
  4. Savoie, Matthew
  5. 2024 1st round pick (BUF)
  6. 2026 1st round pick (BUF)
BUF
  1. Kulak, Brett
  2. McDavid, Connor ($6,250,000 retained)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the NJD
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2026
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Logo of the BUF
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,500,000$75,246,667$3,550,000$7,342,500$12,253,333

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$886,667$886,667 (Performance Bonus$3,062,500$3M)
C
RFA - 3
$3,750,000$3,750,000
RW, C
RFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, C
RFA
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$886,667$886,667
C, LW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$3,250,000$3M)
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,175,000$1,175,000
LD
RFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$775,000$775,000
RW, C
RFA
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$775,000$775,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Nemec will be on the team next year. Replace Nemec and we can talk.


I dont know if you can in this deal without including someone on your current roster, if Nemec would be off the table I'd probably find another place to send Drai.
Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Bahl is our 3LD and he's rock solid imo. Big, heavy hitter, decent skater, solid defensively and has deceptively good hands for his size.


Didn't know he was 23 as well, I only really noticed him on one game of NJ I watched and assumed he was older.

The Devils roster is getting pretty unfair lol
Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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Quoting: PurpleHippo
My 3-4 first was implied with the idea they are high firsts (8-16 range), I'd say Mercer, Nemec and your 2025 is worth around 4 high firsts.
No disrespect to either Mercer or Nemec, they're both great, but again in a situation where EDM does trade Drai I'd think this is around value wise for both teams.

The big thing in this ACGM was to not move the other teams roster players but still get value for the 3 I traded, Drai on the Devils would be deadly with Hughes.

I don't see this as an overvalue of Drai's worth but still respect that you say it is.

Is Luke Hughes moving to LD or are you guys looking to trade Marino/Dougie?


I'm very high on nemec specifically. Also I look at things based on the numbers

Let's say Drai is a 20 million dollar player. We're getting 16 mill in surplus value in that case

Mercer at a 4x4 bridge over the next 4 years (all of which are in our championship window) probably provides 8-10 mill in surplus value over that time
I'd value a 1st at about 5-6 mill
Nemec at 950k over the next 3 years+the first year of whatever his extension is probably provides about 15 mill in surplus value assuming his development is: quality 3RD next year. quality 2RD year after that,quality 2RD year after that, decent top pairing guy in 27-28.


Personally I'll be looking to move Marino at some point to regain assets and allow Casey to step in

Hughes-Nemec
Siegs-Hamilton
Bahl-Casey

Trade marino for at least a 1st in a couple years and use those assets to improve goaltending/forward core
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Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:14 a.m.
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Quoting: PurpleHippo
Didn't know he was 23 as well, I only really noticed him on one game of NJ I watched and assumed he was older.

The Devils roster is getting pretty unfair lol


Don't worry, Lindy Ruff terrorism keeps us down.

Brendan Smith will remain in the lineup no matter how incompetent he is night after night

They've got top prospect holtz playing 10 minutes a night with Nate Bastian and Chris Tierney right now despite him looking fantastic all year and preseason
Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:19 a.m.
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if the oilers trade mcdavid and go into a rebuild they should be expecting 6 years of first round picks plus prospects
Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:21 a.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Don't worry, Lindy Ruff terrorism keeps us down.

Brendan Smith will remain in the lineup no matter how incompetent he is night after night

They've got top prospect holtz playing 10 minutes a night with Nate Bastian and Chris Tierney right now despite him looking fantastic all year and preseason


Every coach has a reason for their moves, sees something we dont.

Though I also was shocked to see Holtz playing on the 4th, move him up with Mercer and Haula at least, drop Tierney once Hischier comes back.
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Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:24 a.m.
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Quoting: LEAFSMIGHTWIN_
if the oilers trade mcdavid and go into a rebuild they should be expecting 6 years of first round picks plus prospects


Would rather have prospects that have shown they are worth their value and a couple closer 1st, never know where teams will be 5-6 years down the road so those 1st might be worth nothing compared to the top end prospects the team currently has.
Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:28 a.m.
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Quoting: PurpleHippo
Than Drai? I'm not sure what you mean here?


On his contract
Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:31 a.m.
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Sabres agree
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Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Kinger25
On his contract


Looked through a couple NJ posts next year and this was the consensus value:
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4670864
https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4665159

Though some posted had 6.75*8 year deals, either way there would be space to give him more if needed.
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Nov. 3, 2023 at 11:51 a.m.
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Drai is an AMAZING player...but it's also a guarantee for just two years. The Devils have a core to win now, if anything they need the D to get experience and find a goaltending playing well enough to keep them in games. The Devils don't need Drai right now nor should pay up something like this.
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Nov. 3, 2023 at 12:51 p.m.
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Quoting: PurpleHippo
I dont know if you can in this deal without including someone on your current roster, if Nemec would be off the table I'd probably find another place to send Drai.


That's fair. The Devils aren't in a position to keep Drai beyond this year, so we're not a good trade partner anyway
 
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