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Oilers deal

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 4, 2023
Published: Nov. 4, 2023
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Maybe there is a deal that helps both teams?
Trades
MTL
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Campbell, Jack
  3. Holloway, Dylan
Additional Details:
Campbell isn't a star goalie, but he is better than he's shown

Holloway needs a fresh start. The talent is there, but he has not found his game in the NHL.

Bourgault would be a nice add as a tweener this year and has top 9 upside for sure
EDM
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Matheson, Michael
  3. Ylönen, Jesse
Additional Details:
Allen could probably help steal a few games in a platoon with Skinner

Matheson is so good. He skates fast and has incredible technique. He can play on your top pair and keep pace with McDavid

Ylonen has a great toolkit and needs a team to give him a middle role. Habs have few top end talent guys but tons of middle 6 guys
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$74,442,916$1,170,000$4,860,000$9,057,084
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,985,000$1,985,000 (Performance Bonus$15,000$15K)
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1

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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:36 a.m.
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EDM says no
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.
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Oilers should
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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Quoting: Jeuck75
EDM says no


Not even a discussion starter? You don't see how this makes the Oilers better in the short term?
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.
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Quoting: Kinger25
Oilers should


I agree. I doubt Kent Hughes would be willing to trade his old client, Matheson, though
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.
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i don't this Edmonton has the cap space to take Matheson and Allen
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:43 a.m.
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Not even a discussion starter? You don't see how this makes the Oilers better in the short term?


No because EDM doesnt have cap space, and Matheson has been horrible in other years before these first few games of the season. His contract is horrible
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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No because EDM doesnt have cap space, and Matheson has been horrible in other years before these first few games of the season. His contract is horrible


He was awesome last season before his injury and pretty good the season before in Pittsburgh. So this is his 3rd good season in a row.

Nurse & Campbell's contracts are terrible. Matheson is actually a top 10 value contract in the league.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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He was awesome last season before his injury and pretty good the season before in Pittsburgh. So this is his 3rd good season in a row.


Its not worth giving up 2 good prospects though
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:46 a.m.
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Its not worth giving up 2 good prospects though


You enjoying Holloway's play this season and last?
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:47 a.m.
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You enjoying Holloway's play this season and last?


He's only 22tears of joy
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:48 a.m.
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It isn’t even enough to dump Campbell
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
It isn’t even enough to dump Campbell


Sure it is. Campbell is not a dump either. He is a decent 1B.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:51 a.m.
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i don't this Edmonton has the cap space to take Matheson and Allen


That's an S.E.P.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:55 a.m.
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i don't this Edmonton has the cap space to take Matheson and Allen


They don't it puts them about $2.5M over.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Jeuck75
He's only 22tears of joy


I'm just saying, you value him pretty highly for a guy with 9 career points in the NHL.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 10:59 a.m.
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That's an S.E.P.


I'm pretty sure it's yours as well since the league won't approve a trade that puts a team over the cap.
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:02 a.m.
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Quoting: aedoran
I'm pretty sure it's yours as well since the league won't approve a trade that puts a team over the cap.


We can take another player back, but ultimately since they have all their picks, they can pay someone to take one of their bad contracts (Habs included)
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Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:02 a.m.
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Quoting: jonh514
I'm just saying, you value him pretty highly for a guy with 9 career points in the NHL.


Okay but Slafkovský only has 11 in 49 games thats not far off either and he was a 1st ovr pick lol
Nov. 4, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
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Okay but Slafkovský only has 11 in 49 games thats not far off either and he was a 1st ovr pick lol


He's 19. It's different than 22 as you well know. But yeah, most Habs fans would tell you they are disappointed at 19. Imagine having 0 points at 22.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
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Sure it is. Campbell is not a dump either. He is a decent 1B.


He is a bad backup right now and he make 5m. Holloway and a first is the cost to dump him
Nov. 4, 2023 at 12:53 p.m.
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This is certainly a conversation starter. Cap would need to be balanced and I'd say the positions of the players involved would need to get closer to balance (adding another LD without moving one is inoptimal) but it achieves a good deal of what EDM should be looking to achieve.
Nov. 4, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
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Best player in the trade is Matheson and allen is better than skinner or is certainly playing like it and has a cheaper cap hit... and Ylonen could be better than either of those prspects so thank god the gm of the habs wont do this trade. We have no need to move any of those players and moving them doesnt improve our team.. Holloway is a B prospect and Bourgault is a long shot for sure... and montreal has too many prospects of that quality already... This trade improves edm because matheson is better than most of their defense but they get two other good players as well.. yikes terrible trade
Nov. 4, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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Quoting: danielcoe
Best player in the trade is Matheson and allen is better than skinner or is certainly playing like it and has a cheaper cap hit... and Ylonen could be better than either of those prspects so thank god the gm of the habs wont do this trade. We have no need to move any of those players and moving them doesnt improve our team.. Holloway is a B prospect and Bourgault is a long shot for sure... and montreal has too many prospects of that quality already... This trade improves edm because matheson is better than most of their defense but they get two other good players as well.. yikes terrible trade


You lost me at Ylonen > 2 x former 1st round picks
Nov. 4, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Jeuck75
EDM says no


Strange... Edmonton would be robbing Montreal blind in this scenario: Holloway+Bourgault hardly begins to compensate for Campbell's contract, so in no plausible way can the Oilers expect positive assets in return with such package!
Nov. 6, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.
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Quoting: jonh514
You lost me at Ylonen > 2 x former 1st round picks


those former first rounders have not put up any numberrs in the nhl or big numbers in the ahl....so they are maybes at best while clearly matheson and allen are nhl players
 
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