Wow an actual realistic one for once, however Brodie and lily aren’t going anywhere much rather pay with picks

Overpays on every one of these.

You are just now learning Danielson. Salary in, salary out. Lily doesn’t fit the physical D mold that the Leafs are going after.

Am I overpaying OR are you over valuing? Maybe that’s the real question my friend.

No, a 4th liner isn't getting a 1st and Treliving can't pay a 1st to move him. May as well just fire himself if his first big decision ends up costing him a 1st to move him. So that's not happening. Larsson is on the wrong side of 30 and paying a 25 year old top 4 defenceman for a 30+ defenceman is not wise. And Samsonov hasn't lost that much value.

And finally, Brodie is much much much better than Zadorov. End of debate.

These are trades made to appease homers of the other teams. No rational or objective person would see it differently

We are getting the Flyers 2nd rd pick back. They will probably only be 10 picks apart. We will have to pay to get rid of Klingberg, no matter how crappy it is.

IMO Leafs have maybe a 3-4 year window to win with this team, so Larsson will still be in his prime. Lily will still be a small, soft 6th RD that gets less than 10 points every year. Timmins will be better than him when healthy.

Yes Brodie is a better D but I’m addressing the Leafs needs and big Z will get good offers. It depends on what Cgy wants to do. If they want to try and stay competitive, they will want a good D in return or if they are rebuilding, they may prefer prospects and draft picks.
But we are just arguing opinions. I see your point of view but mine is just different.
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Larsson is 31, he's already passed his prime. Treliving can't sign Klingberg and then pay a 1st to move him. In his first year. You just can't do that, may as just fire yourself. And once again, losing a trade to get Z is dumb.

Liljegren has more than 10 points last year. He had almost 20 points. He might be on the small side and not very physical, but he's an effective 2-way defenseman. Also the dude is 24. Let him develop before firing him into the sun. He's also not a 3rd pair D. He's been on the 2nd pair all but a couple games, and been good there. Adam Larsson is 31 right now. He's out of his prime, and based on trends, he's gonna start his decline relatively soon. By that 4th year of the window, he's probably gonna be washed. Why would you give up a rising player for a falling player during the window? On a much larger scale, you can ask Stan Bowman how that worked out with Panarin.

If you agree that Brodie is better than Zadorov, why would the Leafs give up the better player plus some for a worse player? Just because he hits? That would be foolish. The Leafs have McCabe for that. Hold onto the one legitimate defensive defenseman that they have unless something better comes along. There's no need to make this trade, especially when Giordano has to play 20 minutes a night any time a defenseman goes down. An extra D is more needed than exchanging a good defenseman for a less good defenseman.

As for Sammy, you can't trade him without another option. He has shown he can be good, and he's been good recently. Trading him now only to have a bad Martin Jones back up an unproven Woll is a terrible idea.

There's nothing realistic about the SEA or CGY trade.

That Calgary trade is an overpayment Brodie is twice the defender zadorov is and we’re retaining on him lol, that Seattle trade is fair value too lily has a lot of value and the leafs don’t move him unless it’s an overpayment

Philadelphia's 2nd rounder is the compensation pick from not signing Jay O'Brien. I believe it would be pick #19 in the second round (51st overall) since that was the slot the Flyers had originally selected JOB.

TOR doesn't make that deal is what I'm saying.

SEA doesn't need a goalie.

Oh yes I agree Brodie and lily aren’t going anywhere