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Trade Deadline Experiment

Created by: Acegamer
Team: 2023-24 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 19, 2023
Published: Nov. 19, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
BOS
  1. Laine, Patrik ($2,700,000 retained)
CBJ
2.
BOS
  1. Tanev, Christopher ($2,225,000 retained)
CGY
  1. Boqvist, Jesper
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (BOS)
3.
BOS
  1. Frost, Morgan ($1,000,000 retained)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$79,940,834$4,500,000$80,000$3,559,166
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Columbus Blue Jackets
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,750,000$4,750,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$11,250,000$11,250,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$870,000$870,000 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
C
RFA - 3
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,100,000$1,100,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,300,000$2,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 7
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$4,100,000$4,100,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,475,000$3,475,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Calgary Flames
-$1,100,000-$1,100,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$787,500$787,500
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Boston Bruins
$775,000$775,000
RD
RFA - 1

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Nov. 19, 2023 at 7:53 p.m.
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Switch zboril for lohrei and there’s a solid foundation for a trade there
Nov. 19, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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That wouldn’t even cover the Sweetener and Retention on Taven and whole over pay for Morgan Frost

Make it Tanev 50% Retained FOR Lysell + Faranacci + Boqvist AND Frost $1mil Retained for a 3rd + 7th/?
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 7:56 p.m.
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Quoting: SK101
Switch zboril for lohrei and there’s a solid foundation for a trade there


You are overvaluing Laine. He hasn’t worked in CBJ. Boston is taking the risk here. CBJ gets a 1st. A great centre and a top 4 D. most people would say that’s an overpayment for Laine. But I don’t think so.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 7:57 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
That wouldn’t even cover the Sweetener and Retention on Taven and whole over pay for Morgan Frost

Make it Tanev 50% Retained FOR Lysell + Faranacci + Boqvist AND Frost $1mil Retained for a 3rd + 7th/?


I like that. Either way it works for the Bs
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Acegamer
You are overvaluing Laine. He hasn’t worked in CBJ. Boston is taking the risk here. CBJ gets a 1st. A great centre and a top 4 D. most people would say that’s an overpayment for Laine. But I don’t think so.


The retention alone is worth more than a late first. Gryz and zboril have negative value to the jackets. I like coyle but he’s old and doesn’t fit the jackets timeline so he also has little to no value other than trade bait.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: SK101
The retention alone is worth more than a late first. Gryz and zboril have negative value to the jackets. I like coyle but he’s old and doesn’t fit the jackets timeline so he also has little to no value other than trade bait.


Watch a few more bruins games. Gryz and Coyle bring a lot. Coyle is that solid 2 way centre with great leadership. He would bring more to CBJ than Laine.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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Watch a few more bruins games. Gryz and Coyle bring a lot. Coyle is that solid 2 way centre with great leadership. He would bring more to CBJ than Laine.


They are good players just not a ton of value with their age. Maybe if you trade them and get some solid assets for them then you can use those in a laine trade but they are basically useless to the jackets
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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They are good players just not a ton of value with their age. Maybe if you trade them and get some solid assets for them then you can use those in a laine trade but they are basically useless to the jackets


Using that logic Laine is useless as well. So you get 4 assets for 1 asset. And one of those assets is a 1st.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:09 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
That wouldn’t even cover the Sweetener and Retention on Taven and whole over pay for Morgan Frost

Make it Tanev 50% Retained FOR Lysell + Faranacci + Boqvist AND Frost $1mil Retained for a 3rd + 7th/?


If we could get just Lysell for Tanev it would be a steal.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Acegamer
Using that logic Laine is useless as well. So you get 4 assets for 1 asset. And one of those assets is a 1st.


Assets have value though. Zboril is a negative asset. Gryz and coyle are negative to the jackets. There’s nothing in this trade that is useful to the jackets. This trade really isn’t even close either. You have to give to get
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:14 p.m.
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Quoting: Lunatik
If we could get just Lysell for Tanev it would be a steal.

1-for-1, yes. Retention costs a 3rd/Faranacci and the Sweetener to Win him over the rest of the Competition = 5th/6th/7th/Boqvist
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
1-for-1, yes. Retention costs a 3rd/Faranacci and the Sweetener to Win him over the rest of the Competition = 5th/6th/7th/Boqvist


No, it would still be a steal with retention. We'd be lucky to get Lysell in a Hanifin or Lindholm deal, the odds of a Tanev deal are next to none.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:17 p.m.
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Quoting: SK101
Assets have value though. Zboril is a negative asset. Gryz and coyle are negative to the jackets. There’s nothing in this trade that is useful to the jackets. This trade really isn’t even close either. You have to give to get


If you are talking trade assets though. Some would argue that at this point both Coyle and Gryz have better trade value than Laine.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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If you are talking trade assets though. Some would argue that at this point both Coyle and Gryz have better trade value than Laine.


Not at all. If they do it’s not to the jackets.
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
That wouldn’t even cover the Sweetener and Retention on Taven and whole over pay for Morgan Frost

Make it Tanev 50% Retained FOR Lysell + Faranacci + Boqvist AND Frost $1mil Retained for a 3rd + 7th/?


Wrong team. I like Tanev. He doesn’t really have a long term spot with Boston and doesn’t carry even remotely that close in value. It would be a poor allocation of funds even without the borderline absurd request for price.

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Switch zboril for lohrei and there’s a solid foundation for a trade there


What do you think Laine’s value actually is? Just curious. He’s DNP and makes a tad under $9M. I’m pretty comfortable Laine isn’t worth his current salary. Boston is better off waiting and seeing if Columbus will trade him for pennies on the dollar if they can’t take a player in free agency.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:25 p.m.
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Quoting: Celtics21
Wrong team. I like Tanev. He doesn’t really have a long term spot with Boston and doesn’t carry even remotely that close in value. It would be a poor allocation of funds even without the borderline absurd request for price.



What do you think Laine’s value actually is? Just curious. He’s DNP and makes a tad under $9M. I’m pretty comfortable Laine isn’t worth his current salary. Boston is better off waiting and seeing if Columbus will trade him for pennies on the dollar if they can’t take a player in free agency.


Laine is worth every cent when healthy. He’s been a PPG when healthy the last two years. Problem is he hasn’t been healthy. Jackets aren’t trading him for Pennie’s that for sure. Might not have as much trade value as he used to but he worth way more than this package. If the jackets trade him they are going full rebuild and would want a top prospect for him
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:26 p.m.
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Not at all. If they do it’s not to the jackets.


Actually what I meant is that if CBJ wanted to flip them. They would get a higher return than if they only had Laine as an asset. And I would debate their impact on the team as well. But if you are arguing that they don’t need to win they are rebuilding and just need picks then I would argue that you will not receive a 1st round pick for Laine from any team as his value has bottomed out. So Gryz and Coyle are just a bonus.

And if CBJ didn’t want to compete why would they sign players like Provorov and Severson ?
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:28 p.m.
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Laine is worth every cent when healthy. He’s been a PPG when healthy the last two years. Problem is he hasn’t been healthy. Jackets aren’t trading him for Pennie’s that for sure. Might not have as much trade value as he used to but he worth way more than this package. If the jackets trade him they are going full rebuild and would want a top prospect for him


Great. Hopefully you find a team that thinks the same. Boston is going to be in a position to sign a player outright without giving up anything. Even if they did, my guess is it wouldn’t be Laine
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:29 p.m.
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Laine is worth every cent when healthy. He’s been a PPG when healthy the last two years. Problem is he hasn’t been healthy. Jackets aren’t trading him for Pennie’s that for sure. Might not have as much trade value as he used to but he worth way more than this package. If the jackets trade him they are going full rebuild and would want a top prospect for him


If he’s not healthy then why don’t they have him on the IR. Instead he’s a healthy scratch. He doesn’t work in CBJ and should be traded for culture character players. That’s what CBJ needs more of.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:29 p.m.
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The Bruins should not spend any 1st or 2nd round picks this year, period. They should not trade any prospects that project to be in the top 6 unless it is a swap for other prospects that project to be in the top 6. Despite their current record, this is not the year to go all in. Maybe they can make some fringe moves to add depth using picks in the 3rd round or later.
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Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:31 p.m.
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No, it would still be a steal with retention. We'd be lucky to get Lysell in a Hanifin or Lindholm deal, the odds of a Tanev deal are next to none.

Yeah, I’m not that high on Lysell tbh. He hasn’t been very impressive since he was Drafted and doesn’t have very good Skill Ratings. That said, he’s still young and could make me look dumb for saying that one day

I Agree @Celtics21, BOS doesn’t need Tanev, they already have Carlo, but TOR & EDM will likely end up paying the price I’m suggesting
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Great. Hopefully you find a team that thinks the same. Boston is going to be in a position to sign a player outright without giving up anything. Even if they did, my guess is it wouldn’t be Laine


Right, this is my thinking too. Laine still has term, but in this case that is a bad things for the Bruins. I don't think I'd want to tie up 8.7m for the next two years unless it is for a center. I'm not trying to crap on Laine as much as saying I think the opportunity cost of bringing him in is too high. There will be decent UFA wings available in the offseason and Boston will have cap space, but they wouldn't be able to even consider bringing any of them in.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:34 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Yeah, I’m not that high on Lysell tbh. He hasn’t been very impressive since he was Drafted and doesn’t have very good Skill Ratings. That said, he’s still young and could make me look dumb for saying that one day

I Agree Celtics21, BOS doesn’t need Tanev, they already have Carlo, but TOR & EDM will likely end up paying the price I’m suggesting


Tanev would be a strong depth D for a playoff run.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:45 p.m.
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Poorly thought out and just bad in general plus made the team worse.
Nov. 19, 2023 at 8:47 p.m.
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Poorly thought out and just bad in general.


Insightful commentary as usual. Lol
 
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