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Update Given News on Untouchables

Created by: tjk
Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 27, 2023
Published: Nov. 27, 2023
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Kenny said the 2024 1st is untouchable. Ok then sell the rest. I'm trying to watch playoff hockey.

Were my trades Under/Over pays? As an Oil fan, I think Hart one might've been an overpay, and Larsson an underpay. But you never know.

I was close to making a Tanev trade.. but idek if that's possible between the Oil and Flames.
Trades
1.
EDM
  1. Hart, Carter ($1,989,500 retained)
  2. Seeler, Nick
Additional Details:
I think Hart Costs at least 3 1sts. To a team like Edmonton add even more in because they need a goalie. So 3 1sts (2025,2026,Bourgy) and a 2 2nds (2024/Lavoie).
PHI
  1. Bourgault, Xavier
  2. Kulak, Brett
  3. Lavoie, Raphael
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
  5. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
  6. 2026 1st round pick (EDM)
  7. 2026 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Kulak for Cap, trading 3rd for Seeler
2.
MIN
  1. Münzenberger, Luca [Reserve List]
  2. 2025 5th round pick (EDM)
3.
EDM
  1. Larsson, Adam ($2,000,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Former 1st for Larsson. 2nd and prospect. If he waives NTC to come back to EDM, I know he had a miserable time here with his Dad, but we need a RD like him.
SEA
  1. Broberg, Philip
  2. Wanner, Maximus
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
  4. 2026 2nd round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$83,026,167$850,000$3,225,000$473,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$775,000$775,000 (Performance Bonus$3,225,000$3M)
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$12,500,000$12,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 6
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$8,500,000$8,500,000
C, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$5,125,000$5,125,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,750,000$2,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$900,000$900,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$807,500$807,500
RW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$9,250,000$9,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,989,500$1,989,500
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 3
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$2,600,000$2,600,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
$3,250,000$3,250,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW, C
RFA - 1

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Nov. 27, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
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When Holloway is back, send down Hamblin.

Run:
Holloway - McD - Hyman
Nuge- Drai - Kane
Foegele - McLeod - Brown
Janmark - Ryan - Maroon
Nov. 27, 2023 at 4:41 p.m.
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Larsson will be a 'no-go' as it was revealed the reason he left was because his dad died here, not hockey related at all.

Even if you did manage to bring him in, a dejected Larsson doesnt do us any good on the ice.
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 5:24 p.m.
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Ken Holland is about to ruin the best player in the league's chances of winning a cup cause he's too much of a coward to trade a first rounder after one rough start.

Jesus Christ.
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 5:24 p.m.
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Holy massive overpay for hart
Nov. 27, 2023 at 5:29 p.m.
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You know Lyubushkin is cheaper and does eveything Larsson does right. Lyubush contract is 2.75m but hey if you wanna spend more on someone else go for it
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 5:53 p.m.
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Quoting: NucksnOilers
Ken Holland is about to ruin the best player in the league's chances of winning a cup cause he's too much of a coward to trade a first rounder after one rough start.

Jesus Christ.


I remember a time when Kenny would trade first round picks like candy. Like Toronto does now.
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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Why would you want to trade 1st round picks to get something of value towards contending, when you can wait a few years and give them away for nothing?
Especially when your drafting and development has been doing such a bang up job with those 1st round selections. sarcasm

Trading their 1sts (in the right deals) is the BEST thing the Oilers could do. It prevents them from drafting poorly and the players they acquire will have cap hits that prevent them from allocating space towards bad contracts. Trading for Ekholm was a good move. They got value for a change, helped their roster, and they didn't have the money to sign another Leafs cast-off (Holl) to a terrible contract.
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 7:03 p.m.
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Quoting: Oilers_29
Holy massive overpay for hart


ehhh I mean at minimum you gotta think it starts with 2 firsts and players. For the Oilers, the price is going to be significantly more.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
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Quoting: NucksnOilers
Ken Holland is about to ruin the best player in the league's chances of winning a cup cause he's too much of a coward to trade a first rounder after one rough start.

Jesus Christ.


Yep! Confused
Nov. 27, 2023 at 7:05 p.m.
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Quoting: TyeZerker
You know Lyubushkin is cheaper and does eveything Larsson does right. Lyubush contract is 2.75m but hey if you wanna spend more on someone else go for it


Interesting. I may explore that idea. Hadn't even thought of him. TBF we torched him last night.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 7:34 p.m.
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ehhh I mean at minimum you gotta think it starts with 2 firsts and players. For the Oilers, the price is going to be significantly more.


When has a goalie ever returned 2 1sts idk why I would ever think that
Nov. 27, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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Did I really read Carter Hart cost at least 3 1st rd picks? No sane GM is giving 3 1st rd picks for a goalie.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 9:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Oilers_29
When has a goalie ever returned 2 1sts idk why I would ever think that


Just because it hasn't happened, doesn't mean it can't happen. One year of Korpisalo got a 1st. PHI has no incentive to trade a 24-year-old good young goaltender. You have to overpay, especially if you are the Oilers and everyone knows you need goaltending.
Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:18 p.m.
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Just because it hasn't happened, doesn't mean it can't happen. One year of Korpisalo got a 1st. PHI has no incentive to trade a 24-year-old good young goaltender. You have to overpay, especially if you are the Oilers and everyone knows you need goaltending.


Fake news hahah korpisalo never returned a first Gavirkov returned the first and I’m pretty korpisalo was a 3rd
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Nov. 27, 2023 at 11:20 p.m.
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Quoting: tjk
Just because it hasn't happened, doesn't mean it can't happen. One year of Korpisalo got a 1st. PHI has no incentive to trade a 24-year-old good young goaltender. You have to overpay, especially if you are the Oilers and everyone knows you need goaltending.

Trade was Quick 1st 3rd for Gavrikov and Korpisalo and I’m pretty sure would have just been a 3rd and quick If they only wanted Korpisalo. And I don’t understand we’re u get this idea that Edmonton has to overpay because they need a goalie because LA also needed one and didn’t seem like they overpaid at all
Nov. 28, 2023 at 7:48 a.m.
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Sad to see EDM GM thinking his 1st is untouchable when its biggest utilization could be helping shedding salary. That 2024 1st will have to be deployed to shed bad contracts.
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Nov. 28, 2023 at 8:29 a.m.
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I mean, I understand why they don’t want to trade this year’s first
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Nov. 28, 2023 at 2:50 p.m.
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Quoting: IconicHawk
I mean, I understand why they don’t want to trade this year’s first


You probably could find a team willing to take that on RIGHT NOW straight up for Campbell's contract. Gamblers, but probably could. That is worth it imo.
 
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