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Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Nov. 28, 2023
Published: Nov. 28, 2023
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$83,500,000$87,340,417$850,000$55,000-$3,840,417
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
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UFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,450,000$1,450,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$922,500$922,500 (Performance Bonus$55,000$55K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$787,500$787,500
LD
RFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 2

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Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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I want Larsson on the Leafs also. I made a proposal of 1st, Niemela + 3rd. Larsson was 50% retained in it for this year and next. Not sure if Seattle does it though.
Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I want Larsson on the Leafs also. I made a proposal of 1st, Niemela + 3rd. Larsson was 50% retained in it for this year and next. Not sure if Seattle does it though.


Agreed, think Borgen would be a better fit for Vancouver. Younger and cheaper too
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Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I want Larsson on the Leafs also. I made a proposal of 1st, Niemela + 3rd. Larsson was 50% retained in it for this year and next. Not sure if Seattle does it though.


Hogs for Tolvi and Larrson is not going anywhere
Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:19 p.m.
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Agreed, think Borgen would be a better fit for Vancouver. Younger and cheaper too


Seattle hasn't decided if they are sellers at the deadline yet still possible playoffs this year
Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:20 p.m.
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Agreed, think Borgen would be a better fit for Vancouver. Younger and cheaper too


Borgen is an intriguing piece. I like the idea of a vet on a two year deal though. I know Willander is solid but I'd be afraid to rush him. Hronek, Larsson, Bear for next year would be nice.

I'm sure the ask for something like this is a first, McWard and second tier forward prospect. Not sure I'd like to see the first go when Hronek, Myers and Bear would be solid for this year and TanDaddy can be a FA signing.
Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:21 p.m.
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Agreed, think Borgen would be a better fit for Vancouver. Younger and cheaper too


I'd prefer Borgen tbh I just figured Seattle wouldn't be willing to move him
Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.
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Borgen is an intriguing piece. I like the idea of a vet on a two year deal though. I know Willander is solid but I'd be afraid to rush him. Hronek, Larsson, Bear for next year would be nice.

I'm sure the ask for something like this is a first, McWard and second tier forward prospect. Not sure I'd like to see the first go when Hronek, Myers and Bear would be solid for this year and TanDaddy can be a FA signing.


A 1st and Klimovich was what I was thinking
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Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.
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Quoting: CantCrackTheKraken
Seattle hasn't decided if they are sellers at the deadline yet still possible playoffs this year


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Hogs for Tolvi and Larrson is not going anywhere


You ain't getting Hoglander chief. I'm just assuming Seattle are sellers for the sake of argument
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Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
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You ain't getting Hoglander chief. I'm just assuming Seattle are sellers for the sake of argument


If I were Gm only guys tempted to move are Yams Tolvi and Kartye
Nov. 28, 2023 at 9:50 p.m.
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I will preface this by stating I firmly believe that Seattle isn't going to be super willing to trade Larsson, Tolvanen, or Borgen. Even if they end up selling this year, it will be more of a soft sell that helps reload the team for next year, with players like the those three still around to aid in that effort.

However, for the sake of this exercise, here are my takes on what I think it might take for the Canucks to pry these players out of Seattle:

Adam Larsson: Serviceable roster player, top-four defenseman prospect, first and second round picks
Example: Adam Larsson for Conor Garland, Tom Wallinder, Vancouver's 2024 1st round pick, Vancouver's 2025 2nd round pick

Eeli Tolvanen: First round pick or similarly valued prospect/young NHL player
Example: Eeli Tolvanen for Vancouver's 2025 1st round pick

Will Borgen: First round pick, prospect with a decent chance of being an NHL regular in some capacity
Example: Will Borgen for DPetey and Vancouver's 2024 1st round pick

These valuations are probably more than what these players are worth in a vacuum, but I think it would take overpayments like this to convince the Kraken to trade away players they otherwise wouldn't deal, especially to a team in the same division.
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Nov. 29, 2023 at 1:45 a.m.
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I do not think the Kraken would be very open to trading any of these players at the deadline

But what I think the cost would be for Seattle to ship these players to their division and closest geographical rival would be

Larsson : Garland (cap dump), Willander, Podkolzin and a 2nd
this might seem steep but Vancouver also gets out of the Garland deal as well

Tolvanen : Hoglander / Lekkerimaki and a 2nd
Again this may seem steep but with Tolvanen's cap hit and production there would likely be many suitors if he were on the block, and being an RFA rental opposed to a UFA adds more value

Borgen : Silovs and a 2nd
Borgen is a reliable defencesive defenceman on a cheap contract with 2 years of control

These might seem like overpays but I don't think Seattle would part from them without getting great value
 
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