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Built for playoffs and planning for Nylander resigning

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 1, 2023
Published: Dec. 1, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
Edmonton trades 5th to to a 3rd team for 50% retention
2.
TOR
  1. Ristolainen, Rasmus ($2,000,000 retained)
PHI
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (EDM)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Larsson, Adam ($2,000,000 retained)
SEA
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 5th round pick (VAN)
  4. 2025 5th round pick (CHI)
4.
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$79,306,450$0$0$4,193,550
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
$2,850,000$2,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 8:28 a.m.
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Trading Brodie and Liljegren while bringing in Ristolainen would be so funny lol, I hope Brad is looking at this
Dec. 1, 2023 at 8:52 a.m.
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Nothing says “built for the playoffs” like adding a D with 0 career playoff games and one of the softest big forwards the league.
Dec. 1, 2023 at 9:01 a.m.
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Mantha is finally getting going. Caps aren't trading him unless it's for something good.
Dec. 1, 2023 at 9:09 a.m.
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Quoting: stuuuuuuuuuuutzle
Trading Brodie and Liljegren while bringing in Ristolainen would be so funny lol, I hope Brad is looking at this


Brodie and Lily aren’t as valuable as you think they are. That’s why Leaf fans are trying to trade them. Brodie is not worth his contract anymore. IMO McCabe has become more valuable and at 3M less. Lily has trouble winning puck battles and clearing guys in front of the net(not big and strong enough), which is where the Leafs have a lot of problems. I know Ristolainen may not be the answer to make us better defensively but I have no problem moving those two.
Dec. 1, 2023 at 9:19 a.m.
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Would much rather have Mantha on a 1 year deal than Jarnkrok's term if I'm the Caps.
Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:32 p.m.
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Quoting: stuuuuuuuuuuutzle
Trading Brodie and Liljegren while bringing in Ristolainen would be so funny lol, I hope Brad is looking at this


To be clear, this is Trading Brodie and Liljegren to bring in Ristolainen and Larsson with retention, who are signed long term for a combined 5 mil and both bring an element we lack in the top 4. We know what type of player pairs best with Rielly, and Risto is better than both Lyubushkin and Schenn while bringing the same element that compliments Rielly. He's always had the talent, but was asked to carry a lot of the load on bad teams. Since Torts has come in he's actually been very solid, finishing last year with a long stretch where he was legitimately one of the best defensive D in the league when paired with Sanheim. Sanheim played the role that Rielly would play and it allowed Risto to simplify his game, even to the point where he outperformed Sanheim down the stretch. Not only does he have size and physicality, but he's also very mobile for his size, is a competent puck mover and can even provide offense from the backend. At $3 mil for 4 more years on a team like the Leafs he'll live up to that cap hit at the very least, and with the structure and talent around him would be very capable of exceeding that value, especially with the cap going up.

Larsson is another minute muncher with size and mobility who was very successful last playoffs, again at only 2 mil for 2 more years. Those 2 combined make roughly the same as what Brodie makes now, and are both bigger, more physical, better puck movers, better skaters and even slightly better offensively.

As for Mantha, he had 23 hits in 6 games the last time he played in a playoff series against Florida, almost 4 hits per game. He also had 13 penalty minutes over that span including a fighting a major. He has multiple fights over his career despite that not being his role, far from soft. Most importantly, he has great size at 6'5" 234 lbs while also being quite mobile, a common theme here.

Size isn't everything, but ideally every forward line and D pairing should have some element of it come playoff time, as battling for space becomes more critical. Each of our top 3 lines consists of a high end playmaker (Nylander, Marner, Domi), a sniper (Matthews, Tavares/Nylander, Robertson), and a PWF who can retrieve pucks and create havoc in front of the net, while having the hands in tight to pot any rebounds (Knies, Bert, Mantha).

Every D pairing has at least one guy with size and physicality who can clear the net front, kill the cycle, block shots etc. without sacrificing puck moving or mobility. The defense as a whole is bigger, more physical, more mobile, better offensively and provides more cost assurance going into the future. We wouldn't be getting eaten alive on the forecheck like we did last year, we wouldn't have Florida making their way to the front of the net whenever they wanted, we wouldn't be getting beat to the outside as much and we might actually be able to provide offense from the backend beyond just Rielly.

I said built for playoffs because these are the types of players who succeed when checking becomes tighter, space becomes more limited and the game becomes more physical. We should have learned this by now...
Dec. 2, 2023 at 2:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Affectionate_Side_64
To be clear, this is Trading Brodie and Liljegren to bring in Ristolainen and Larsson with retention, who are signed long term for a combined 5 mil and both bring an element we lack in the top 4. We know what type of player pairs best with Rielly, and Risto is better than both Lyubushkin and Schenn while bringing the same element that compliments Rielly. He's always had the talent, but was asked to carry a lot of the load on bad teams. Since Torts has come in he's actually been very solid, finishing last year with a long stretch where he was legitimately one of the best defensive D in the league when paired with Sanheim. Sanheim played the role that Rielly would play and it allowed Risto to simplify his game, even to the point where he outperformed Sanheim down the stretch. Not only does he have size and physicality, but he's also very mobile for his size, is a competent puck mover and can even provide offense from the backend. At $3 mil for 4 more years on a team like the Leafs he'll live up to that cap hit at the very least, and with the structure and talent around him would be very capable of exceeding that value, especially with the cap going up.

Larsson is another minute muncher with size and mobility who was very successful last playoffs, again at only 2 mil for 2 more years. Those 2 combined make roughly the same as what Brodie makes now, and are both bigger, more physical, better puck movers, better skaters and even slightly better offensively.

As for Mantha, he had 23 hits in 6 games the last time he played in a playoff series against Florida, almost 4 hits per game. He also had 13 penalty minutes over that span including a fighting a major. He has multiple fights over his career despite that not being his role, far from soft. Most importantly, he has great size at 6'5" 234 lbs while also being quite mobile, a common theme here.

Size isn't everything, but ideally every forward line and D pairing should have some element of it come playoff time, as battling for space becomes more critical. Each of our top 3 lines consists of a high end playmaker (Nylander, Marner, Domi), a sniper (Matthews, Tavares/Nylander, Robertson), and a PWF who can retrieve pucks and create havoc in front of the net, while having the hands in tight to pot any rebounds (Knies, Bert, Mantha).

Every D pairing has at least one guy with size and physicality who can clear the net front, kill the cycle, block shots etc. without sacrificing puck moving or mobility. The defense as a whole is bigger, more physical, more mobile, better offensively and provides more cost assurance going into the future. We wouldn't be getting eaten alive on the forecheck like we did last year, we wouldn't have Florida making their way to the front of the net whenever they wanted, we wouldn't be getting beat to the outside as much and we might actually be able to provide offense from the backend beyond just Rielly.

I said built for playoffs because these are the types of players who succeed when checking becomes tighter, space becomes more limited and the game becomes more physical. We should have learned this by now...


Risto is not better than Lyubushkin or Schenn somehow, and that's really saying something
Dec. 2, 2023 at 2:51 a.m.
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Quoting: stuuuuuuuuuuutzle
Risto is not better than Lyubushkin or Schenn somehow, and that's really saying something


There's almost nothing to support this, so in reality this is really saying nothing, not "something".
 
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