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Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.
Thread: Kevin Hayes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MeetYourMakar</b></div><div>You're so angry, its funny. I would have guessed he's your best pal for the way you're offended by my opinion of his work. It's cool to fanboy..
1. GM's scout other teams often, he could just like hockey, or he could be checking in on two teams in his division. The Avs and Stars have made recent trades.
2. GM's make moves to improve their team, not every move is a selling.
3. 2nd line center isn't the only position they're looking to improve. Neither team has a 2c available.
4. Avs couldn't afford one or justify the other.
5. Previous, sure. Never argued that.

I wonder if the blues would be willing to use a retention slot for 3 years when the documented cost is a 6th.

A picture book would offer more in-depth writing than Frank. I appreciate the offer</div></div>

Not angry. Just think it’s pretty silly when the literal armchair GMs pretend to know more than those who are paid to share their inside knowledge with us fans. I’ll remind you a third time that I’m not advocating one way or the other - simply laying out what was reported.

Have a good night kid.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2023 at 2:54 p.m.
Thread: Kevin Hayes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MeetYourMakar</b></div><div>Philosophy and control of decisions is what cause a change in management, bud. Again, please present something well thought out, not just a hmm wonder if. I like how the source of the score article is Frank.</div></div>

1. MacFarland was at the Blue the Star game on Wednesday, Dec. 27th (according to your best pal Frank)
2. Stars aren’t in a position to sell, so he’s probably looking at the Blue.
3. Colorado is known to be in the market for a 2nd line center as Ryan Johansen isn’t working.
4. St. Louis probably isn’t trading Robert Thomas who’s in year five be of an eight year extension, or Brayden Schenn who was named captain over the summer.
5. Colorado has previous ties to Kevin Hayes, the only other center in St. Louis’s top nine.

Let me know if you need a picture book instead.

Again - I’m not advocating that this would be a good trade for the avalanche. Simply laying out what was reported by a credible writer.
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
Thread: Kevin Hayes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MeetYourMakar</b></div><div>Never said I didn't like what he has to offer but, Frank is a lazy reporter. He gets my views but he is a very lazy, reports off of his gut feeling, and is quick to get something out without really contemplating how a fit would work. The wain from Hayes isnt a few month fall off, its s=46&amp;t=GrlueuAxym0FikcD9x4Q_w<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MeetYourMakar</b></div><div>Never said I didn't like what he has to offer but, Frank is a lazy reporter. He gets my views but he is a very lazy, reports off of his gut feeling, and is quick to get something out without really contemplating how a fit would work. The wain from Hayes isnt a few month fall off, its years and 2 or 3 moves for Hayes. Please provide me some well thought out connection for Hayes and the Avs from this summer(as you allege). It was mainly just Frank or CF users. It was a previous head office who originally wanted him.</div></div>

Avs reported interested at TDL 2023: https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/2586466

Haefele alluding to their interest in Hayes this summer: https://x.com/returnofaj/status/1738325425896484983?s=46&amp;t=GrlueuAxym0FikcD9x4Q_w

The current “head office” is the same head office bud. Sakic &amp; MacFarland have been building the Avalanche together since 2015. Promotions didn’t change philosophy.</div></div>
Forum: Armchair-GMDec. 30, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.
Thread: Kevin Hayes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>A 5pt increase in production isn’t worth a 1st rd pick, and I don’t get the obsession of wanting to move Colton out of the 3C spot him and Wood have been great together and Pairing RyJo with Wood and LOC two guys who fly wouldn’t be good.</div></div>

Not necessary advocating to move Colton out of 3C long-term. I like him there too. At the same time, I’m not sure who else you’d move up the lineup with Lehkonen out…

A large part of the value of this deal comes from the remaining contract. He’s on pace for 21 goals &amp; 45 points, at a cap hit under $2M for this year and the next two (until his age 33 season). You’re paying in large part for the retention/contract value.

I would also point to Hayes’s even-strength production compared to Johansen’s:
Hayes: 9G 6A 15P (100% goals &amp; 79% points at ES)
Johansen: 7G 2A 9P (64% goals &amp; points at ES)
Not to mention Johansen’s first 4 goals &amp; 5 points came in Colorado’s first six games, and all but one goal was on the power play. You have to have success at even strength to win in the playoffs. I’m not necessarily advocating that Hayes would be the perfect fit. But the difference between he and Johansen is more than the 5 points you see on the surface. <div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MeetYourMakar</b></div><div>Did Hayes even play last night? Didn't notice him at all. Hayes is not a fit for the current Avs and Frank is a lazy reporter, even worse for western teams. Sure the Avs used to have interest in Hayes but those days are gone.</div></div>

Kevin Hayes last night in a 2-1 game: 15:30 TOI, 2 shots on goal (5 attempts), 1 takeaway, 5 of 9 in the faceoff circle. Not spectacular, but not invisible either.

Obviously Frank is a Philly guy so he’s going to have more ins with east coast teams, but I think most would agree that he’s one of the four or five most connected national insiders. Also don’t think Colorado’s interest in a player that’s spanned his entire ten-year career, and was as recent as this summer, would wain in a matter of two months. Calling a writer “lazy” when you don’t like what they report is a “lazy” take.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 23, 2023 at 2:46 p.m.
Thread: 2024-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McRanteskog</b></div><div>I’d hope Toews would come in closer to 7.5mil. Manson should be the cap casualty over Girard regardless (UNLESS they get an offer for Girard they can’t refuse).</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Anus_McLeod</b></div><div>I'd say Toews comes in closer to 7.5 if they also give him lots of trade protection. Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but I just really think his age will work against him. </div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>Toews at that number is a thank you for your service kind of deal, and move on. If Byram takes the steps he should, would COL do the unthinkable and move Toews for a haul considering what dmen have gone for at the deadline, not likely but an interesting thought.</div></div>

I think Toews gets at least $8M if the term is 6 years or less, whether it’s from the Avs or another team. He would be the top defenseman on half the teams in the NHL. Maybe Colorado could bring the AAV down by going longer on term, but at age 30 I’d hesitate to go more than 5 or 6 years.

Two recent comps are Dmirty Orlov (2x$7.75M) and Vince Dunn (4x$7.35M). I’m biased, but I would prefer Toews over either of those players. There will also be more clarity on how much the cap will continue to rise after this coming season.

I would also hesitate a little bit on big time trade protection if they offer max term, at least in the later years of the deal. There’s been some research about how late bloomers (like Toews) also tend to decline faster. I think his skating and IQ will help his longevity, but still have to be careful when signing a guy into his mid-/late-30s.

I’d imagine the ship has sailed on trading Toews. That probably would have been a decision they made early this summer, if at all. Even if they don’t think they can keep him come trade deadline, he would be their “own rental” (assuming the season hasn’t completely gone off the rails).

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swissmontana</b></div><div>Kovalenko might get more. I think he'll only sign a 1-year RFA after the KHL season to come join the Avs for the playoffs, which would burn his last RFA year. If he's anywhere near as productive in the playoffs as he is in the KHL, he could be closer to Miles Wood money in UFA. There's a possibility that the Avs sign him to a longer RFA deal that gives him a tad more money (and since he'd join in April, his cap hit would be very minimal anyway), but if they manage to get him to sign for longer than just the 1-year, it would probably have to be at least $2. Otherwise, he should bet on himself.</div></div>

Kovalenko has to sign an entry level contract, and because of his age (23) it has to be a 2-year deal with a max AAV if $925k (plus performance bonuses). Evan Rawal put out an article this weekend about how Kovalenko may be signing with the Avs this summer, be loaned back to Torpedo to fulfill the last year of his KHL contract, and then come over to North America this spring. I think he would be eligible to play in the NHL playoffs, as long as he’s on the Avs roster before the trade deadline. If that’s the case, his entry level contract would expire at the end of the 24-25 season and he would be an RFA.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 20, 2023 at 4:25 p.m.
Thread: Do Nothing Else
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McRanteskog</b></div><div>I was just thinking the same thing.. maybe they sign Meyers and fill the remaining spots from within.

If that’s the case, Malinski stays down in the AHL and Hunt comes up. If Malinski isn’t getting everyday minutes, he’s better suited to be in the AHL one last year.

Don’t love Meyers on that third line. Would rather he center the 4th and one of the AHL guys gets a good look on the wing on the third line.

Can’t pair Johnson and Manson together, too slow, they’d get easily exposed

It’s a shame Ranta took off to Europe, he genuinely could’ve had a shot to break into the lineup this year</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>earl08</b></div><div>I like where you put Meyers &amp; Pavel. Meyers was a big time scorer and is better than a 4C</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LafayetteAvsFan</b></div><div>I think Meyers gets the Newhook treatment this year: Here's your chance. You show up or you don't. I understand Newhook's voiced frustration about being bounced around but he needed to seize the opportunity.
I think between Colton &amp; Wood they'll get 40 goals/90 points this year. If Meyers can show up enough to get 30-35 pts, he's worth keeping around. Otherwise, he'll have blown his chance.</div></div>

RE: Meyers
I’m no expert, but it seems like Meyers was capable of playing a better two-way game than Newhook at the NHL level. Even if all the offense<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>M96N29</b></div><div>I still think they maximize the LTIR space and sign at least one more guy. Imo, they are more likely to go in with the D they have, using a Hunt, JJ, MacDermid rotation on the third. Realistically, they have two open forward positions. It's likely that Meyers is penciled into one of them (and I agree it shouldn't be higher than 4th line) for now, but he's still unproven and he'll be on a short leash. With the cup window open and some really competitive teams out there, it's hard to think they roll with two unproven guys. Right? I hope not.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>swissmontana</b></div><div>I think it'll be another signing at the 4C position over Pavel, but I agree with this. Pavel doesn't seem like he's ready at all based on reports from dev camp.</div></div>

doesn’t translate, I think he could be a reliable bottom six guy.

RE: Adding other players
Just to clarify, starting the season with some you gets guys in the lineup doesn’t mean they’re locked into it. If they’re not keen on any remaining free agents (which they might be), why not give their internal guys a look before making a trade. I’d love to see them add Pius Suter personally, but we’ll see.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2023 at 8:24 p.m.