I hate the Canucks

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Created by: Leafs_Fan3416

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 1, 2023

Published: Dec. 1, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Please, I'll do anything
Also, yes I'm over the cap. That's Tre's job to fix lol

Trades

TOR

Zadorov, Nikita ($750,000 retained)

VAN

Liljegren, Timothy
2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
2024 5th round pick (VAN)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$83,500,000	$84,156,450	$0	$0	-$656,450

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Nylander, William $6,962,366$6,962,366 RW NMC UFA - 1
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Reaves, Ryan $1,350,000$1,350,000 RW UFA - 3
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4
Gregor, Noah $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1
McMann, Bobby $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2	Samsonov, Ilya $3,550,000$3,550,000 G UFA - 1
Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1		Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Zadorov, Nikita $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1
Benoit, Simon $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1
Lagesson, William $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1
Lajoie, Maxime $775,000$775,000 LD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Klingberg, John $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:03 a.m.

RipNasty

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Liljegren is straight up better than Zadorov

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:04 a.m.

Lancebmx

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There are alot of teams that would probably trade their third pair defensemen. Don't you worry, you didn't miss out on much.

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:04 a.m.

Leafs_Fan3416

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Trad Breliving

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Quoting: RipNasty

Liljegren is straight up better than Zadorov

Then why didn't the Canucks trade for Liljegren instead...

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.

remowilliams

Joined: Dec. 2018

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Canucks decline.We got the guy we wanted.IMHO.

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.

MitchJr

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Quoting: Leafs_Fan3416

Then why didn't the Canucks trade for Liljegren instead...

Because we’re a better team than the Canucks and we’re not moving Liligren 🤦🏻

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.

Leafs_Fan3416

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Trad Breliving

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Quoting: MitchJr

Because we’re a better team than the Canucks and we’re not moving Liligren 🤦🏻

I know, I'm just salty 😂

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:19 a.m.

kingkanuck

AN "ORIGINAL SIX"

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and everyone hates the Leafs!

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.

Leafs_Fan3416

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Trad Breliving

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Quoting: kingkanuck

and everyone hates the Leafs!

fair
I do actually like the Canucks they're one of my favorite teams but I'm just pissed about the Z trade

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.

SomeonesOffended

FKA Bigtittielarper

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Quoting: Leafs_Fan3416

Then why didn't the Canucks trade for Liljegren instead...

Cause Lily isn’t available obviously

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.

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Nighthawk

2018 Canucks

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Quoting: remowilliams

Canucks decline.We got the guy we wanted.IMHO.

We need Z much more than Lily. Snarl & size better than a ***** not built for tough going.

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.

#11

Leafs_Fan3416

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Trad Breliving

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Quoting: Nighthawk

We need Z much more than Lily. Snarl & size better than a ***** not built for tough going.

I think Z is the type of defensemen we need, especially since he's sort of similar to Luke Schenn, and Schenn looked good with them in the playoffs, but some leafs fans also highly value Lily. I'm sort of in the middle but I did want Z a lot

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.

#12

Nighthawk

2018 Canucks

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Quoting: Leafs_Fan3416

Leafs cap allocation since signing JT is at the root of all things.

Cap hamstrung
No cap to pay Willy his due
D depth issues for years
Revolving door inadequate goalies

All comes back to Dubas & his roster design. As much as Leafers don’t wanna trade Willy it’ll be a costly own rental if they let him walk.

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.

#13

RipNasty

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Quoting: Leafs_Fan3416

Then why didn't the Canucks trade for Liljegren instead...

Because Liljegren isn't getting traded.

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.

#14

RipNasty

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Quoting: Nighthawk

Just going to ignore the pandemic keeping the cap stagnant eh?

Blaming Dubas is such a dumb and disingenuous argument. He never overpaid anyone, it was all market value and his depth signings were always below market value. Had the cap not stayed the same for years, none of the issues they had with the cap would have been an issue. It's just silly how you guys just ignore that to take shots

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.

#15

RipNasty

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Quoting: Leafs_Fan3416

Schenn didn't look great until the 2nd round. Z is a 3rd pair defender. I'd have him over Mccabe but what TO really needs is an actual shutdown defender. They need a new Muzzin. Zadorov isn't that.

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.

#16

BeautifulIdiot

This team kills me

Joined: Mar. 2021

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The feeling is mutual, we hate y’all too

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Dec. 1, 2023 at 2:26 p.m.

#17

Nighthawk

2018 Canucks

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Quoting: RipNasty

The pandemic affected every team. Nice try

Blame does go on Dubas. Nothing to do with market value signings but everything to do with LOUSY goaltending WEAK D & SOFT as butter. Poor roster build. Great regular season but hardly a great PO roster.

Take off the blinders.

Dec. 1, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.

#18

RipNasty

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Quoting: Nighthawk

None of those teams just paid 3 elite players market dollars the season before the pandemic happened. Try again.

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