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Tanev to Leafs Realistic

Created by: Nat
Published: Dec. 5, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 135/192 (70%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Tanev, ChristopherCalgary FlamesNHL25%$3,375,000011---24167--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hirvonen, RoniWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
Abruzzese, NickWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the New York IslandersNYI)---010------
2025 3rd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,470,0012345643710
Change$3,375,000-111020
Final$6,845,001 (↑)22 (↓)46 (↑)65 (↑)39 (↑)10-1-6-7

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Hirvonen, RoniWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
Abruzzese, NickWaivers ExemptToronto Maple LeafsMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 3rd round pick (Logo of the New York IslandersNYI)---010------
2025 3rd round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Tanev, ChristopherCalgary FlamesNHL25%$3,375,000011---24167--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,872,4992047632315
Change-$3,375,0001-1-10-20
Final$497,499 (↓)21 (↑)46 (↓)62 (↓)21 (↓)15167
Dec. 5, 2023 at 4:36 p.m.
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Nat
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2 Prospects, 2 3rd picks

For a 1 year rental on Tanev

Zadorov went for a 3rd and 5th. Tanev is not worth a 1st..
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Dec. 5, 2023 at 5:14 p.m.
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Completely unrealistic. Tanev fetches a 1st and more.
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Dec. 5, 2023 at 10:45 p.m.
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Augustus
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Quoting: MoxNix
Completely unrealistic. Tanev fetches a 1st and more.


Best save a Tanev deal for a time when multiple teams want him, i.e. the deadline. The Canucks got Zadorov for the 5th and 3rd because Vancouver had the 'best' offer for him at the time, the one not involving any retention.

Whatever offers come in for him will determine his value, I just hope there is a long enough lineup for his services. The cap can screw everything up.
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Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:55 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Completely unrealistic. Tanev fetches a 1st and more.


But so did Z right?
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Dec. 6, 2023 at 12:12 a.m.
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But so did Z right?


Ah, to be fair @Rhea, if Conroy had the luxury of waiting, he likely would have received more, and had better offers, as the cap hit would be lower etc etc. Unfortunately, the big guy went public with his wanting out (saying it was because he 'hadn't received a contract offer') .. who knows if he would have fetched a 1st or not (I know I made a pitch like that but the market sets reality), but the point still stands... could have been better than a 5th and 3rd, but ill timing, and they risked Zadorov playing worse over time post-request.
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Dec. 6, 2023 at 11:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Augustus
Ah, to be fair Rhea, if Conroy had the luxury of waiting, he likely would have received more, and had better offers, as the cap hit would be lower etc etc. Unfortunately, the big guy went public with his wanting out (saying it was because he 'hadn't received a contract offer') .. who knows if he would have fetched a 1st or not (I know I made a pitch like that but the market sets reality), but the point still stands... could have been better than a 5th and 3rd, but ill timing, and they risked Zadorov playing worse over time post-request.


True but like you say, this will.all depend on timing and Conroy. I don't Z is really that good to be honest so I am not surprised at the return but Tanev is a better dman by far. Remember they will also risk Tanev getting injured if they wait too long as well. The way he plays, unfortunately it is a consideration.

I hope it works out for you though.
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Dec. 6, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Completely unrealistic. Tanev fetches a 1st and more.


Quoting: Rhea
But so did Z right?



We have heard this over priced narrative for Flames players before.
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Dec. 6, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Augustus
Ah, to be fair Rhea, if Conroy had the luxury of waiting, he likely would have received more, and had better offers, as the cap hit would be lower etc etc. Unfortunately, the big guy went public with his wanting out (saying it was because he 'hadn't received a contract offer') .. who knows if he would have fetched a 1st or not (I know I made a pitch like that but the market sets reality), but the point still stands... could have been better than a 5th and 3rd, but ill timing, and they risked Zadorov playing worse over time post-request.


Seeing as Zadorov is on team number 5 in what 10 seasons - perhaps he really isn't as good as people think or he is bad in the locker room etc. Flames got what they traded for him and an extra pick for a disgruntled player who went public.
Dec. 6, 2023 at 6:46 p.m.
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Quoting: Nat
2 Prospects, 2 3rd picks

For a 1 year rental on Tanev

Zadorov went for a 3rd and 5th. Tanev is not worth a 1st..
.................. Tanev is way more valuable than Zadorov, he's a legit top 4 defenceman with some of the best defensive metrics in the league depending where you look, and he has an extensive track record of making his partner better, especially young defencemen. Zadorov just gets hyped up because he'll blow a guy up and go end to end once a game but then the rest of the game he's losing his man in the d zone and coasting around
 
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