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Created by: CoryTheGreat

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs

Initial Creation Date: Dec. 5, 2023

Published: Dec. 5, 2023

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Would you fellow leaf fans be ok with trading Nylander if it meant we flip the assets to get Saros? Not sure what the trade would look like but something along those lines? Now don’t flip out if the value is a bit off preds fans let me know how it is

Trades

TOR

Vatrano, Frank
2024 1st round pick (ANA)
2024 2nd round pick (BOS)
2025 1st round pick (ANA)

Additional Details:

Nylander signs 9.75x8 in ANA and plays with Zegras

ANA

Nylander, William
2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
2024 5th round pick (CGY)
2024 5th round pick (VAN)

Additional Details:

Nylander to any team for a return similar to this. An extension would have to be in place with whatever team that trades for him in order to maximize value and make it worth spending the assets for the acquiring team.

TOR

Saros, Juuse

NSH

Hildeby, Dennis
Samsonov, Ilya
2024 1st round pick (TOR)
2024 2nd round pick (BOS)
2025 1st round pick (ANA)

TOR

Tanev, Christopher

CGY

Abruzzese, Nick
2026 1st round pick (TOR)
2026 3rd round pick (TOR)

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Top 7 protected

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Ryan Reaves: $200,000 ($1,350,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$79,953,251	$0	$0	$3,546,749

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Bertuzzi, Tyler $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 1	Matthews, Auston $11,640,250$11,640,250 C NMC UFA - 1	Vatrano, Frank $3,650,000$3,650,000 LW, RW UFA - 2
Knies, Matthew $925,000$925,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Tavares, John $11,000,000$11,000,000 C, LW NMC UFA - 2	Marner, Mitchell $10,903,000$10,903,000 RW NMC UFA - 2
Robertson, Nicholas $796,667$796,667 LW, RW RFA - 1	Domi, Max $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Järnkrok, Calle $2,100,000$2,100,000 RW, C, LW M-NTC UFA - 3
Gregor, Noah $775,000$775,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Kämpf, David $2,400,000$2,400,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	McMann, Bobby $762,500$762,500 RW, LW UFA - 1
		Steeves, Alex $834,167$834,167 LW, RW RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Rielly, Morgan $7,500,000$7,500,000 LD NMC UFA - 7	Brodie, TJ $5,000,000$5,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Saros, Juuse $5,000,000$5,000,000 G UFA - 2
McCabe, Jake $2,000,000$2,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Tanev, Christopher $1,125,000$1,125,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1	Woll, Joseph $766,667$766,667 G RFA - 2
Giordano, Mark $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1	Liljegren, Timothy $1,400,000$1,400,000 RD RFA - 1
Lagesson, William $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1	Timmins, Conor $1,100,000$1,100,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Muzzin, Jake $5,625,000$5,625,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Murray, Matt $4,687,500$4,687,500 G M-NTC UFA - 1
		Klingberg, John $4,150,000$4,150,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1

Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:14 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Two potential lottery picks and a 14-goal $3.6m forward for a rental? Seems like a little much, no?

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:19 p.m.

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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I don't disagree with you for trading Nylander. But these type of sign and trades NEVER happen. Can you name just once, when a Cup contender (Leafs are 3rd in the Eastern Conference) allowed a star player to negotiate a contract with another team during the season. Not saying the Ducks do the trade either. They keep their picks and use the cap to sign UFA(s) next summer.
An big overpay for Saros. Likely an overpay for Tanev too.

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:21 p.m.

CoryTheGreat

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Two potential lottery picks and a 14-goal $3.6m forward for a rental? Seems like a little much, no?

I don’t think Anaheim is that bad are they? Anyhow it probbsly wouldn’t be Anaheim trading for him most likely another contender or up and coming team looking for a boost. I don’t think 2 lottery picks is worth nylander obviously but 2 1sts between 15-32 is good value no?

Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:21 p.m.

palhal

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

Two potential lottery picks and a 14-goal $3.6m forward for a rental? Seems like a little much, no?

A lot too much for a rental. But the author did make the usual silly "extension in place" which never happens. Still an overpay by the Ducks.

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:23 p.m.

CoryTheGreat

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Quoting: palhal

I don't disagree with you for trading Nylander. But these type of sign and trades NEVER happen. Can you name just once, when a Cup contender (Leafs are 3rd in the Eastern Conference) allowed a star player to negotiate a contract with another team during the season. Not saying the Ducks do the trade either. They keep their picks and use the cap to sign UFA(s) next summer.
A big overpay for Saros. Likely an overpay for Tanev too.

Like I said to the other guy this trade probably doesn’t happen with Anaheim they’re just a place holder. Plus I’m not really sure I’m I’m certain the player and the agent can help out with the trwde to make sure Willy goes where he wants to go

Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:23 p.m.

gmgb

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As a Preds fan, I think that's too much for Saros. At last year's deadline, sure. But with TOR only getting two playoff runs out of him, and Saros not looking like his usual self so far this season, that's an overpay.

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:24 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: CoryTheGreat

He is a rental…they would get a late 1st and a decent prospect…but Leafs might as well keep him.

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:28 p.m.

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: palhal

A lot too much for a rental. But the author did make the usual silly "extension in place" which never happens. Still an overpay by the Ducks.

“Extension in place” is (a) an off-season thing and (b) an RFA thing (mostly). If a team lets another franchise talk contracts with their players in-season…that would be unusual. And very well could backfire if agent makes narrow demands that limit the market.

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:29 p.m.

LukaTAG

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Nah just keep Woll

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:39 p.m.

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GeneralLandro

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There isn’t a world where Anaheim spends that much on a rental

Just wild Toronto water

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Dec. 5, 2023 at 11:55 p.m.

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OldNYIfan

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If Willie Nylander is going to sign with us during the season, why wouldn't he sign with us in the off-season? It's not as if he's going to carry us into the playoffs.

Adding Nylander as a free agent (emphasis on "FREE") in July makes a lot more sense than expending three prime assets for three quarters of a season of him now.

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Dec. 6, 2023 at 9:21 a.m.

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Salzy

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Good joke with the Ducks giving up multiple firsts for someone they can sign in July

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