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Created by: Jelly_Kid
Published: Dec. 6, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 134/192 (70%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Edmonton OilersEdmonton Oilers

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Campbell, JackEdmonton OilersMinor-$3,850,000011-------4.510.873
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
2026 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
2026 2nd round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Allen, JakeMontreal CanadiensNHL-$3,850,000011-------3.740.898
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$150,0002245573411
Change$0100-2-10
Final$150,00023 (↑)45571 (↓)3 (↓)11000

Logo of the Montreal CanadiensMontreal Canadiens

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Allen, JakeMontreal CanadiensNHL-$3,850,000011-------3.740.898
2025 2nd round pick (Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Campbell, JackEdmonton OilersMinor-$3,850,000011-------4.510.873
Kakko, KaapoNew York RangersLTIR-$2,100,000011---20213--
2026 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
2026 2nd round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,598,3332346734916
Change$0-111100
Final$2,598,33322 (↓)47 (↑)74 (↑)5 (↑)916213

Logo of the New York RangersNew York Rangers

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Kakko, KaapoNew York RangersLTIR-$2,100,000011---20213--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
2025 2nd round pick (Logo of the Pittsburgh PenguinsPIT)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$6,537,5002146643213
Change$00-1-1110
Final$6,537,5002145 (↓)63 (↓)4 (↑)3 (↑)13-2-1-3
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Dec. 6, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
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Even taking the 2026 1rst out of the picture, I'd probably do this trade as a Habs fan, and keep Cambell as an AHL backup... So I guess Edmonton wouldn't do this trade wink
Dec. 6, 2023 at 8:20 p.m.
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Campbell has another 4 years on his contract... Monahan was double the salary for 1 year, and was worth a 1st. So theoretically Campbell is worth around 2 1sts or 1 1st and 1 2nd. Then you also factor in Jake Allen's value, which is somewhere between a 1st and a 3rd (I'm not really sure with goalies). I don't know if they SHOULD make the trade, but I don't think the value is really that far off.
Dec. 7, 2023 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Jelly_Kid
Campbell has another 4 years on his contract... Monahan was double the salary for 1 year, and was worth a 1st. So theoretically Campbell is worth around 2 1sts or 1 1st and 1 2nd. Then you also factor in Jake Allen's value, which is somewhere between a 1st and a 3rd (I'm not really sure with goalies). I don't know if they SHOULD make the trade, but I don't think the value is really that far off.


Was Monahan worth a 1rst, or is Treliving an idiot? wink No kidding, I'd say Campbell is worth an (unprotected) 1rst and a 2nd.

Allen is definitely not worth a 1rst before the deadline IMO. I'd love to be wrong! But I seriously doubt we'll get that for him. But hey, Treliving is with the Leafs now... maybe they'll need a goalie before we move Allen...
Dec. 8, 2023 at 5:00 a.m.
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Was Monahan worth a 1rst, or is Treliving an idiot? wink No kidding, I'd say Campbell is worth an (unprotected) 1rst and a 2nd.

Allen is definitely not worth a 1rst before the deadline IMO. I'd love to be wrong! But I seriously doubt we'll get that for him. But hey, Treliving is with the Leafs now... maybe they'll need a goalie before we move Allen...


NHL is like a big ocean, when a team start to be injured and need to do something quickly or in need to something there will be blood and the shark around will smell it. No one will give free help, the help will have an cost.


With the situation of Calgary and the trade with Montreal for Monahan and an first round for nothing happens on the fact that treliving was in real need to exchange money out quickly to be able to sign Kadri before the deal fell off and go elsewhere. No team wanted to help him for free and I think that Montreal was kind of the lowest price asking to accept the dump. I presume team wanted more then an first round pick or wanted some retention which was not what Calgary could do.


In case of Campbell if he was able to have some decent performance he could be trade for less but as is contract is for 3 more years after this season with a good amount of salary, the cost to move him would be higher.

The team with the cap space have the biggest hand on the stick right now in negotiations but with next year potential 4 millions add to the maximum salary capacity, team will have less power to negotiate better return for the space as the team with struggle will be a little bit more free.

So doing two first round pick unprotected to acquire Campbell contract should probably be the standard demand of team with cap space.

I think as an trade base between both team should be around this:

Montreal: Bourgault, Campbell, foegele (easi cap move for Allen) , 2 first round pick
Edmonton: Allen, (an bottom six player like pezzetta or ylonen to remplace foegele on cheaper deal)
Dec. 8, 2023 at 9:28 a.m.
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Quoting: EatMyScoobySnack

Montreal: Bourgault, Campbell, foegele (easi cap move for Allen) , 2 first round pick
Edmonton: Allen, (an bottom six player like pezzetta or ylonen to remplace foegele on cheaper deal)


If Hughes swings this trade, I'll forever refer to him as The Magician. To quote dgibb10 on another thread, "Robin Lehner at 1.1 million coming off a 3rd place vezina finish was traded for a 2nd+5th." Allen is not worth much.

The Oilers are 7-3-0 in their last 10, have 3 games in hand on the 2nd wildcard, and arguably the one or even two best offensive players in the game. I don't think they feel like wounded animals in a sea of sharks. They should have felt like this 10 games ago, and still didn't pull the trigger. They might offer a 2nd for Allen.

Now say that moving Campbell is indeed worth the 2 first. Subtracting this from your trade, we have:

Montreal: Bourgault, Foegele
Edmonton: Allen, Pezzeta

I'd say we're getting much more value here than a mid-round second...
Dec. 8, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.
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If Hughes swings this trade, I'll forever refer to him as The Magician. To quote dgibb10 on another thread, "Robin Lehner at 1.1 million coming off a 3rd place vezina finish was traded for a 2nd+5th." Allen is not worth much.

The Oilers are 7-3-0 in their last 10, have 3 games in hand on the 2nd wildcard, and arguably the one or even two best offensive players in the game. I don't think they feel like wounded animals in a sea of sharks. They should have felt like this 10 games ago, and still didn't pull the trigger. They might offer a 2nd for Allen.

Now say that moving Campbell is indeed worth the 2 first. Subtracting this from your trade, we have:

Montreal: Bourgault, Foegele
Edmonton: Allen, Pezzeta

I'd say we're getting much more value here than a mid-round second...


Maybe your right, as they are doing a bit better maybe they are not as desperate to do an trade for an goaltender right now but are they able to be 100% sure that this tandem will be perfect for playoff ? At deadline they probably should add another goaltender or / and an defenseman to add depth.


The second round pick may be the real value of Allen but if this was the case the trade would have already be done long ago. Kent Hughes have probably someone in mind ( Bourgault) and if he didn't trade him away yet may be because he don't think what value is getting back is worth losing him as he can backup montembeault.
Dec. 8, 2023 at 8:33 p.m.
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Jake Allen isnt getting the oil anywhere,its the cheaper with upside Vladr that is the best oiler option.
Dec. 8, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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LOL, this is completely absurd. Jake Allen isn't worth very much at all.
 
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