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LARSSON is AVAILABLE

Team: 2023-24 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 10, 2023
Published: Dec. 10, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
SEA
  1. McDonough, Aidan
  2. 2024 1st round pick (VAN)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (NJD)
2.
VAN
  1. 2024 6th round pick (ARI)
3.
VAN
  1. Eriksson Ek, Joel ($2,500,000 retained)
Additional Details:
If the wild sell
MIN
  1. Räty, Aatu
  2. 2025 1st round pick (VAN)
  3. 2026 2nd round pick (VAN)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$83,005,417$850,000$0$494,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
C
UFA - 6
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
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$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,150,000$1,150,000
RW, C, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$3,750,000$3,750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$883,750$883,750
C
RFA - 1

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Dec. 10, 2023 at 5:30 a.m.
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The wild are not going to retain 2,500,000 for 6 years man, his contract is good why would they even retain. Doubt Arizona does this trade tbh and the Seattle trade is possible but we would probably have to pay a premium due to us being divisional rivals.
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Dec. 10, 2023 at 7:58 a.m.
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Add a touch more and get larsson half retained
Dec. 10, 2023 at 9:13 a.m.
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The wild are not going to retain 2,500,000 for 6 years man, his contract is good why would they even retain. Doubt Arizona does this trade tbh and the Seattle trade is possible but we would probably have to pay a premium due to us being divisional rivals.


My guess is that they would want a hockey trade too. Supposedly, they need help on offense so maybe Kuzmenko for Larsson.
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Dec. 10, 2023 at 11:53 a.m.
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1) Minnesota isn't retaining. His contract is already a steal. And no one ever retains for longer than 2 years on a moved contract.

Furthermore, even if the team was to consider selling. JEE is NOT a piece that would ever be moved. He's still young and a central pillar of their core.

2) That isn't even close to sufficient value for JEE, and that's before retention. Which would cost more.

3) The ONLY player Minnesota considers moving JEE for is EP40. It would be unreasonable and unrealistic, but EP40 would have to be coming back Minnesota's way before they would willingly move JEE.
Dec. 10, 2023 at 12:40 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
1) Minnesota isn't retaining. His contract is already a steal. And no one ever retains for longer than 2 years on a moved contract.

Furthermore, even if the team was to consider selling. JEE is NOT a piece that would ever be moved. He's still young and a central pillar of their core.

2) That isn't even close to sufficient value for JEE, and that's before retention. Which would cost more.

3) The ONLY player Minnesota considers moving JEE for is EP40. It would be unreasonable and unrealistic, but EP40 would have to be coming back Minnesota's way before they would willingly move JEE.


That's a laugh. JEE is not Matthew Tkachuk. He's not earning Huberdeau + Weegar + 1st. He's not Jack Eichel, he's not earning Tuch + Krebs + 1st.

JEE has scored more than 50 points once in his career, he's on pace to do it again. He has finished Top-10 in Selke voting, but has never won. His closest comparison that has been traded recently is Ryan O'Rielly, who was signed to a long-term deal.

O'Rielly earned Buffalo 1st + 2nd + Thompson (struggling prospect) + Sobotka (bottom-sixer) + Berglund (long-term cap dump)

You could reasonably ask for a 1st + struggling prospect + roster player, more if a team requires you to take a cap dump back.

Comparable to the O'Rielly trade, Vancouver could offer 1st + Podkolzin + Blueger, or 1st + 2nd + Podkolzin + Garland.
Dec. 10, 2023 at 1:57 p.m.
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That's a laugh. JEE is not Matthew Tkachuk. He's not earning Huberdeau + Weegar + 1st. He's not Jack Eichel, he's not earning Tuch + Krebs + 1st.

JEE has scored more than 50 points once in his career, he's on pace to do it again. He has finished Top-10 in Selke voting, but has never won. His closest comparison that has been traded recently is Ryan O'Rielly, who was signed to a long-term deal.

O'Rielly earned Buffalo 1st + 2nd + Thompson (struggling prospect) + Sobotka (bottom-sixer) + Berglund (long-term cap dump)

You could reasonably ask for a 1st + struggling prospect + roster player, more if a team requires you to take a cap dump back.

Comparable to the O'Rielly trade, Vancouver could offer 1st + Podkolzin + Blueger, or 1st + 2nd + Podkolzin + Garland.


His value was literally pegged to be around a PLD level of return by the Athletic. Or Elias Lindholm.

PLD is making $7M+ from LA. Lindholm is asking $9M for his next contract.

JEE is making $5.25M AAV for the next 6 years. He currently has 13 goals, 7 assists, for 20 points in 26 games played. That's a .80 PPG pace. He's on pace for well over 70 points this season, and he had 65 last season, so he's not just on pace to be over 50 points again? His numbers are improving every year.

So to summarize, he's a Selke caliber 2nd line center who has improved every year he's been in the league. On a steal of a contract. That's a lot of value, value that's increased by his contract being so cheap for so long. There's not a better contract for a top-six center in the league.

You think that doesn't cost in today's market?

And to be blunt it doesn't matter what his value is. It's what's his value to Minnesota. Which is immeasurable.

1) He's Minnesota's best center. He's still young, on a stupidly great contract, and arguably their most important player after Kaprizov.

It's going to take a stupidly asinine levels of overpay to pry him out of Minnesota.

2) Selke voting is extremely biased to East Coast players. Eriksson-Ek hasn't won yet primarily because Bergeron was still playing. Now that he's retired, Eriksson-Ek has a realistic and legitimate chance to win.

Not that I expect him too, given the severe East Coast bias for that award. If he played on the East Coast, he'd be a no-brainer lock for the award.

But Eriksson-Ek has been arguably the best shutdown center in the league after Bergeron by analytics for the past few years.
Dec. 10, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.
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His value was literally pegged to be around a PLD level of return by the Athletic. Or Elias Lindholm.

PLD is making $7M+ from LA. Lindholm is asking $9M for his next contract.

JEE is making $5.25M AAV for the next 6 years. He currently has 13 goals, 7 assists, for 20 points in 26 games played. That's a .80 PPG pace. He's on pace for well over 70 points this season, and he had 65 last season, so he's not just on pace to be over 50 points again? His numbers are improving every year.

So to summarize, he's a Selke caliber 2nd line center who has improved every year he's been in the league. On a steal of a contract. That's a lot of value, value that's increased by his contract being so cheap for so long. There's not a better contract for a top-six center in the league.

You think that doesn't cost in today's market?

And to be blunt it doesn't matter what his value is. It's what's his value to Minnesota. Which is immeasurable.

1) He's Minnesota's best center. He's still young, on a stupidly great contract, and arguably their most important player after Kaprizov.

It's going to take a stupidly asinine levels of overpay to pry him out of Minnesota.

2) Selke voting is extremely biased to East Coast players. Eriksson-Ek hasn't won yet primarily because Bergeron was still playing. Now that he's retired, Eriksson-Ek has a realistic and legitimate chance to win.

Not that I expect him too, given the severe East Coast bias for that award. If he played on the East Coast, he'd be a no-brainer lock for the award.

But Eriksson-Ek has been arguably the best shutdown center in the league after Bergeron by analytics for the past few years.


If JEE value to Minnesota is immeasurable to Minnesota, then they should keep him. League market value has him at the same price as ROR/PLD; 1st + prospect + 2nd + cap dump/roster player.

PLD went for Vilardi (1st) + 2nd + Kupari (prospect) + Iafallo (roster player)

ROR in 2018 was a near identical player to JEE. Perennial Selke nominee, signed for 5 seasons, reasonable cap hit for what ROR brought, the difference is ROR was a 1st line-center as opposed to JEE's 2nd line.

If JEE is moved, you can expect market value for him. If the Wild don't believe that 1st + prospect + roster player is worth it, then that's what they decide.
 
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