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Graves for Berts

Created by: HCSG
Team: 2023-24 Pittsburgh Penguins
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 11, 2023
Published: Dec. 11, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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No, no, please, I know how stupid this is.
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Graves, Ryan
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PIT)
  3. 2026 2nd round pick (PIT)
Buyouts
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$81,854,342$0$0$1,645,658
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,125,000$5,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$2,450,000$2,450,000
C
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,125,000$3,125,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,025,175$4,025,175
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$5,375,000$5,375,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$825,000$825,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$6,100,000$6,100,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
G
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1

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Dec. 11, 2023 at 11:53 p.m.
#1
FKA Bigtittielarper
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Leafs accept I’m not sure Bert’s nmc does though he is from here
Dec. 12, 2023 at 12:08 a.m.
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I like Bert. But I make this trade from the Leafs side of things. Graves definitely adds a lot of tools that the Leafs can use on the blue line. They can also benefit from those 2 x 2nd round picks also.

I don't see why Pits does this though.

Pits have 4 really good dmen and a bunch of swiss cheese outside of that. They shouldn't be trading one of their best dmen.
Dec. 12, 2023 at 12:18 a.m.
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Leafs can't trade Bert. Keefe needs someone to yell at.
Dec. 12, 2023 at 1:14 a.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
I like Bert. But I make this trade from the Leafs side of things. Graves definitely adds a lot of tools that the Leafs can use on the blue line. They can also benefit from those 2 x 2nd round picks also.

I don't see why Pits does this though.

Pits have 4 really good dmen and a bunch of swiss cheese outside of that. They shouldn't be trading one of their best dmen.


Graves has been very underwhelming, makes really stupid passes and turnovers leading to breakaways or odd man rushes, like more then karlsson or letang have. i dont know the stats but it feels that way at least (could be that his turnovers lead to goals more often). Several times over the past couple games hes been demoted to the 3rd pairing. Also the guy is a sniper when it comes to shin pads.
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 1:29 a.m.
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NTU

https://twitter.com/ARHockeyStats/status/1732113476787532266/photo/1
Dec. 12, 2023 at 1:30 a.m.
#6
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Leafs accept I’m not sure Bert’s nmc does though he is from here


Trust me you dont want graves above explains why and if this continues oh god that deals bad
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Dec. 12, 2023 at 1:32 a.m.
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You don’t know puck.
Dec. 12, 2023 at 9:36 a.m.
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We should've targeted Bertuzzi this summer. The exact type of player we need
Dec. 12, 2023 at 3:20 p.m.
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No Thanks.
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Trust me you dont want graves above explains why and if this continues oh god that deals bad


Hush! They like it.
Dec. 12, 2023 at 5:18 p.m.
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Hush! They like it.


Not anymore they saw the light lul
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