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Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 11 at 1:46 p.m.

Thread: Post-Cup Crunch

Stephenson as 4C is probably someone you move on from, but what a lot of depth you'd have at that position if you could keep him around.

I think Hanifin can fit. Move Howden and/or don't sign Stephenson, fill those slots more cheaply, and you're there.

What does it cost to bring Marchessault back?

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 10 at 11:24 p.m.

Thread: Top Ten Tankin Retool

Yeah, tbh I kinda expect him to stay in Calgary. And I expect Graves to stay in Pitt. I'd certainly rather he not, tho.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 8 at 6:46 p.m.

Thread: Tank for Top Ten Protection

I prefer keeping the pick this year and giving up next year's because I want that prospect playing for the big team as soon as possible, and that's it. I'm not particularly concerned about the difference between a 9th this year or a 5th the next. I just want to get that ball rolling as quickly as possible.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 4 at 2:25 p.m.

Thread: ONE LAST SWING

Why limit yourself and your ability to squeeze as much as possible out of the Cap Space you've got? Those deals don't have to be the only things those teams do here.

Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 1 at 10:26 a.m.

Thread: Playing the Middle-Man

I'm pretty sure Graves would do well in Calgary. Not only that, but he matches something Calgary would definitely like to get in any return for Hanifin: an NHL player in their prime years with good term left. Calgary will need more than Graves going back of course, but using Pitt as a mere third wheel lets whoever else is involved avoid giving up a real roster player they might want for a playoff run.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 4:45 p.m.

Thread: DY-no-MITE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>A late 1st to secure value. Value is value whether it’s at the top of the roster or the bottom. Gravy would be playing 19 minutes a night.</div></div>

That's how I view this. I think it's actually a more sane trade on NJD's end of things. PIT retaining that much for that long really necessitates a 1st coming back.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 3:36 p.m.

Thread: Blow-Up and Glow-Up

Could take or leave that trade on the quality of Graves, but the Pens can use those picks more (if a trade like that can actually happen).

Graves has not been good at all. With the retention, it makes sense to consider keeping him as the 3LD instead of Ludvig, and then just getting a 3RD who's more around league minimum. So that trade is in no way integral to this whole suite of changes. I'm just very ready to move on from him if it nets some interesting futures.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 1:26 p.m.

Thread: DY-no-MITE

Honestly I just feel uncertain about that group. I wonder about consistency of performance, and I wouldn't say no to a cheap upgrade like Ned, considering how well he's performed this year behind a very bad Penguins defense.

Same goes for Carolina. I think they could both be meaningfully improved by the addition of Ned, and he's available for practically nothing against the cap.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 27 at 1:07 p.m.

Thread: DY-no-MITE

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SNipeSHowInc</b></div><div>The Leafs do not need a goaltender</div></div>

I'm not totally sure I agree with that, but Ned could easily go to a number of other teams, so that's fine. We'll change it up.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23 at 10:11 p.m.

Thread: Sam and Jake

I don't care who has them, I just want some fun pills.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 15 at 2:24 p.m.

Thread: Eating It For EDM

A more reasonable price would have involved another 1st Round Pick going back to PIT.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 9 at 3:38 p.m.

Thread: Guentzel and Tanev

I feel like a lot of Pens fans really overvalue two or three months of Guentzel, and also undervalue the benefits of just getting a deal done, and further undervalue the benefits of using his value to move extra cap space out the door.

The Tane trade needs a 1st but IDK if Edmonton does that (they should tho).

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8 at 5:08 p.m.

Thread: Hanif-insanity

Great if he earns it. Where does he go?

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8 at 4:12 p.m.

Thread: Guentzel Ruentzel

TBL would definitely have to find a place to move Graves in the off-season, but I think that should be possible on their end.

And for a chance to push again with a low buy on Jake?

As for the Pen's return, the "immediate improvement" piece in that trade for the Pens is actually all the cap space created by trading Graves.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8 at 12:46 p.m.

Thread: Overhaul for 24-25

I can't disagree, actually, and I'm also highly suspicious of this LAK trade.

Not my best work. Good thing I just stole it. I take no responsibility for things I say on the internet.

But it would be truly great for the Pens if they could move on from the Smith and Graves contracts.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 8 at 11:11 a.m.

Thread: sergachev out until playoffs

From the Pen's angle I'd do this in a heartbeat, but it does sort of sound like trading Jake isn't going to happen, unfortunately.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 6 at 11:16 a.m.

Thread: Pretend Theres Still A Chance

Delusional!?

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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5 at 3:19 p.m.

Thread: Pretend Theres Still A Chance

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aktobos71</b></div><div>I understand what every PIT fan saying what he have hometown connection, but 3 of 4 teams he played for is in central division. Maybe he want to live in this area more than in PIT.</div></div>

TBH, I don't need Saad and don't even want him that much, that trade is mostly about finding someplace for Smith. We could recreate that sort of trade somewhere else.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Fail4Nail</b></div><div>Edmonton accepts, hangs up the phone and doesn't look back.</div></div>

Yeah, that trade is automatic for Edmonton. And I'd still do it. I feel like Pitt has to do something along those lines and now is the best chance they have to do it. I don't know why anyone other than Dubas himself would say no, and I think he'd be wrong to stop it. The deal could be even better for PIT.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jbc149</b></div><div>For 9 mil per, you sign and keep Jake. Pit could get more from Vancouver or any other team if they trade him.</div></div>

Keep Jake and get no return at all for trading him, or trade Jake for even more than I put down and still have the cap space to make a $9M signing? They should trade Jake. They should trade a lot of people while they can.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 5 at 9:19 a.m.

Thread: Trading Crosby

A whole lot of you definitely missed the part where I asked a question in the description and just wrote some variation of "you're dumb" instead of providing any thoughts about what might work. Sad!

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23 at 1:56 p.m.

Thread: OH WELL GOOD TRY

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>I have zero interest in graves but I would still do this lol</div></div>

LMK when TOR finds a new LTIR candidate to create the space needed for Graves' contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 23 at 1:18 p.m.

Thread: OH WELL GOOD TRY

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SomeonesOffended</b></div><div>Pens are never offering that to the leafs</div></div>

Why not? Seems like a pretty good move for them, frankly! Bury Reaves and eat 200k in space for two years instead of eating the full term of that Graves contract.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 19 at 10:59 a.m.

Thread: Guentz and Chych

Blom is definitely the real deal but the Pens have Murashev behind him and Jarry ahead of him and the ability to stick some quality alternatives into their lineup in between those three, so I look at him as a solid trade chip more than anything else. Goalies don't get as much as other positions, usually, so that's a fly in my ointment, but I still think PIT can probably afford to move him if a trade comes along that makes sense for the team as a whole.

Also the idea that Gustavsson, Grubauer, and Blom could all be starters in the league outside the Pens system is kind of amusing.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 18 at 1:33 p.m.

Thread: REEEETOOL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hynzy57</b></div><div>Penguins sign Guentzel for 8x8 and then trade him 7 months later with 50% retention (4mil over 7 years) essentially for lekkerimaki. How does this help the team?</div></div>

You've got the order of operations backwards, there.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 10 at 12:50 p.m.

Thread: Chych

That's what I figured. Thought I'd dump it out here in any case.

Forum: Armchair-GMJan. 3 at 12:52 p.m.

Thread: GRAVE DIGGER

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Victor24</b></div><div>You too!?!?!

Why the Graves hate?</div></div>

He's had a bad first few months and he's definitely dragging down his D-partners right now. He's playing like a 5/6D and getting paid too much for a capped out team. I've been trying to get hired as the Pen's Interim GM for months just so I could ship him to the KHL. I'm sure they could make good use of him on the Vladivostok Admirals.

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