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Bolstering 4th Line

Created by: Burnzie8_88_4Cup
Team: 2024-25 Buffalo Sabres
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 24, 2023
Published: Dec. 24, 2023
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Sturm is worth it, not just this year, but next and hopefully he would resign in 25-26. Krebs isn’t really a 4C. Sturm FO and leadership can’t be undervalued and is worth what most of you will say is an overpay. I’d make this trade every day, he’s the type of player we need.
Free Agent Signings
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6$5,500,000
2$825,000
2$825,000
3$3,000,000
1$800,000
1$775,000
2$2,250,000
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1$2,500,000
1$2,000,000
1$2,000,000
1$800,000
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  1. Krebs, Peyton [RFA Rights]
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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22$87,500,000$82,556,070$0$2,500,000$4,943,930
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
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NMC
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
C
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
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UFA - 2
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$855,833$855,833
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$7,100,000$7,100,000
C, LW
UFA - 6
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, C
RFA
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$650,000$650K)
LW
RFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, C
UFA
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
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RW
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 8
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$4,285,714$4,285,714
LD
UFA - 6
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
G
RFA
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 7
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$3,333,333$3,333,333
RD
UFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
G
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 2:07 a.m.
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You could get Sturm for a 4th or 5th round pick. You can keep your 2nd and Krebs.
Dec. 24, 2023 at 2:11 a.m.
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Quoting: TMLBRIAN
You could get Sturm for a 4th or 5th round pick. You can keep your 2nd and Krebs.



I did Krebs as a C replacement so SJ still would have it for this year, I should’ve put TDL 24. As for the pick, I’m down for only a 4th, but I think it would cost more.
Dec. 24, 2023 at 2:18 a.m.
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Way too much, SJ fans seemed fine with Jost and a handful of 3rds. Krebs himself would be 1 for 1
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 2:30 a.m.
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Way too much, SJ fans seemed fine with Jost and a handful of 3rds. Krebs himself would be 1 for 1


Sturm >>> Krebs as a 4 C.
Dec. 24, 2023 at 2:32 a.m.
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Quoting: Burnzie8_88_4Cup
Sturm >>> Krebs as a 4 C.


A lot of people still believe Krebs has potential. He shouldn't be a 4c. His value is still there
Dec. 24, 2023 at 2:35 a.m.
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A lot of people still believe Krebs has potential. He shouldn't be a 4c. His value is still there


I’m this acgm Krebs wouldn’t replace Mitts at 3 C, so what about Krebs and a 3rd?
Dec. 24, 2023 at 3:43 a.m.
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Quoting: Burnzie8_88_4Cup
Sturm >>> Krebs as a 4 C.


Just bc the Sabres are currently using Krebs as our defensive center- that doesn’t mean his ceiling isn’t higher
He’s certainly got the talent to be developed in a middle6 role,
we just haven’t used him that way

And while that might diminish his trade value,
Krebs & a 2nd for a 4th liner is a CRAZY OVERPAY

A 2nd by itself would get Sturm

Krebs by himself would get Sturm too,
probably even get Sturm +


I do like the idea of adding Sturm
Just don’t see a reason to overpay like u suggest
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 3:52 a.m.
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Quoting: Burnzie8_88_4Cup
I did Krebs as a C replacement so SJ still would have it for this year, I should’ve put TDL 24. As for the pick, I’m down for only a 4th, but I think it would cost more.


Quoting: Shibbal18
A lot of people still believe Krebs has potential. He shouldn't be a 4c. His value is still there



If we can bring in a defensive center like Sturm,
I think it could be really interesting to move Krebs into the top9 to let him show his offensive talent

While he does still have potential, his trade value has surely decreased bc of the way we’ve used him- & i don’t see the sense in “selling low” on him

We obviously like him quite a bit to put him into that role & keep him there for so long
Might be worth it to give him a shot in some more offensive positions- and with linemates who have more offensive skill

Maybe he isn’t built for a “shutdown” type role, but could thrive better as a 2way center- if u know what i mean?

Just doesn’t seem like smart asset mgmt to give up on him
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 3:54 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
If we can bring in a defensive center like Sturm,
I think it could be really interesting to move Krebs into the top9 to let him show his offensive talent

While he does still have potential, his trade value has surely decreased bc of the way we’ve used him- & i don’t see the sense in “selling low” on him

We obviously like him quite a bit to put him into that role & keep him there for so long
Might be worth it to give him a shot in some more offensive positions
Maybe he isn’t built for a “shutdown” type role, but could thrive better as a 2way center- if u know what i mean?

Just doesn’t seem like smart asset mgmt to give up on him


I hate that they constantly pair him with Okposo. I don't know if there's a spot for him in the top 9 now either at full health unless they swap him with Greenway, but he's been going too
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 4:12 a.m.
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I hate that they constantly pair him with Okposo. I don't know if there's a spot for him in the top 9 now either at full health unless they swap him with Greenway, but he's been going too


Okposo has had a handful of good games,
but overall it looks like he’s done- & his decline has clearly been hurting that line in general
Sucks to say, bc he was pretty good for us last year, but i think his time here should be over
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 7:29 a.m.
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I wouldn't include Krebs, a 3rd and Jost should get it done.
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 8:39 a.m.
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If this is what we do next offseason everyone should be fired
Dec. 24, 2023 at 8:51 a.m.
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I didn't have a problem with Krebs deployment as a defensive forward, he is a tenacious skater, most of the time, and he seems to embrace the role. Playing with fourth liners isn't gonna pump up his offensive stats. I don't like Krebs addition to the trade here, it just seems like adding just because- you have so many prospects and you can't play everybody- which is a ridiculous argument. You can't give away talent like that, and I don't think sturms market value justifies the 2nd round pick, let alone adding Krebs.
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 9:09 a.m.
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I’m all for adding Sturm, but what about playing him with Krebs? I would think Jost and a decent draft pick would be enough to get it done, mostly because he is not a rental. Injuries happen, and seem to keep happening so having depth would be a very good thing.
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 11:57 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
If this is what we do next offseason everyone should be fired


They'll do less lmao
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 12:00 p.m.
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They'll do less lmao


If I have to see 28 and 21 again I will quit

He made 1 change!
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.
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They'll do less lmao


They really need to start using some of these assets, especially the Decent B prospects in some trades. With as many long term contracts already signed and what is already knocking on the Door. Time to use the plethora of assets to fill a few needed area's. They need another top 3 D, preferably RD with some snarl. And they need some snarl who can still add in there Bottom 6. I would go after Stamkos, he's the type of Mentor and Leadership this young club needs. Need someone who knows what it takes to Win, not Girgensons or Okposo. All they have lead is 7yrs losing.
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Dec. 24, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.
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If you change absolutely nothing with our team except adding a 4th line center you haven't really improved our chances of making the playoffs in such a stacked division/conference. A goalie is desperately needed and Clifton cannot be playing top 4 minutes
Dec. 26, 2023 at 3:30 a.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
Just bc the Sabres are currently using Krebs as our defensive center- that doesn’t mean his ceiling isn’t higher
He’s certainly got the talent to be developed in a middle6 role,
we just haven’t used him that way

And while that might diminish his trade value,
Krebs & a 2nd for a 4th liner is a CRAZY OVERPAY

A 2nd by itself would get Sturm

Krebs by himself would get Sturm too,
probably even get Sturm +


I do like the idea of adding Sturm
Just don’t see a reason to overpay like u suggest


Quoting: Shibbal18
I hate that they constantly pair him with Okposo. I don't know if there's a spot for him in the top 9 now either at full health unless they swap him with Greenway, but he's been going too


Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
If I have to see 28 and 21 again I will quit

He made 1 change!


Sturm isn’t just a 4th Line C. He’s good enough to play 3 C if injuries. It’s intangibles, FO wins that no one is good at on this team, although I think Cozens could be good.

Okie is still decent for 4th Line, he can still score.

1 change, yeah because the top 2 Lines from last year have only played 2 games together. I still like Girgs for another year. He’s battling injury, but 4th liners on Amerks, Cederqvist, Kozak and for sure Nadeou could still use more time in the AHL.
Dec. 26, 2023 at 4:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Skyraider112
If you change absolutely nothing with our team except adding a 4th line center you haven't really improved our chances of making the playoffs in such a stacked division/conference. A goalie is desperately needed and Clifton cannot be playing top 4 minutes



Read the title, Bolstering the 4th Line.
Dec. 26, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Burnzie8_88_4Cup
Sturm isn’t just a 4th Line C. He’s good enough to play 3 C if injuries. It’s intangibles, FO wins that no one is good at on this team, although I think Cozens could be good.

Okie is still decent for 4th Line, he can still score.

1 change, yeah because the top 2 Lines from last year have only played 2 games together. I still like Girgs for another year. He’s battling injury, but 4th liners on Amerks, Cederqvist, Kozak and for sure Nadeou could still use more time in the AHL.


To be clear: i like Sturm & think he’d be a good addition
Just think you’re CRAZY OVERPAYING for him with this proposal
Take Krebs outta the deal & it’s better
Sturm for a 2nd still should get it done
 
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