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Deadline adding to the young core

Created by: gpmack95
Team: 2023-24 Seattle Kraken
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 26, 2023
Published: Dec. 26, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Wennberg, Alexander ($2,250,000 retained)
Additional Details:
NYI trades Pageau, Romanov, 2024 1st, and 2025 2nd to PIT for Jake Guentzel — Wennberg slots into 3C
2.
SEA
  1. Broz, Tristan [Reserve List]
  2. Joseph, Pierre-Olivier
  3. 2026 3rd round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Tolvanen, Eeli
  2. 2026 5th round pick (SEA)
3.
SEA
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (NYR)
NYR
  1. Eberle, Jordan ($2,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Any team
4.
NYR
  1. Bjorkstrand, Oliver ($2,700,000 retained)
Additional Details:
I feel the perfect guy for NYR plus with retention is great long term
5.
SEA
  1. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Tatar, Tomas
Additional Details:
Any team
6.
SEA
  1. 2025 3rd round pick (DAL)
DAL
  1. Schultz, Justin
Additional Details:
Any team
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$74,033,201$129,910$4,970,000$9,466,799
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
C
RFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
RW
RFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$3,062,500$3M)
C
RFA - 3
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$859,167$859,167 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$5,166,666$5,166,666
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$775,000$775,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,900,000$5,900,000
G
NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
LD
RFA - 1
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$2,700,000$2,700,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1
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$775,000$775,000
LW, C, RW
UFA - 1
Taxi Squad
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$1,200,000$1,200,000 ($50,000$50K$50,000$50K)
G
UFA - 2
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$897,500$897,500 ($0$0$0$0)
LD
RFA - 2

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Dec. 26, 2023 at 10:55 a.m.
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Rangers wouldn’t need Eberle and Bjork. I’d probably do that Kakko trade if they could get a 2nd or 3rd round pick back in return
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Dec. 26, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Rags21
Rangers wouldn’t need Eberle and Bjork. I’d probably do that Kakko trade if they could get a 2nd or 3rd round pick back in return


Bjork would be a sick add at $2.7M — moves Wheeler down the line up, creates depth. Bjork is sick two way too
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Dec. 26, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
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What would the price be for Gourde at 50%?
Dec. 26, 2023 at 11:11 a.m.
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Quoting: HShockey
What would the price be for Gourde at 50%?


Great question— for leafs? probably Liljgren if i had to guess
Dec. 26, 2023 at 11:58 a.m.
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If this thread is about adding to a young core, I don't understand moving Tolvanen. Hr has been good in Seattle and getting better.

I am curious as to the thought process here
Dec. 26, 2023 at 1:13 p.m.
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I do think you've got about the right valuations on Seattle's rental players if they end up selling this trade deadline. However, I'm not a big fan of the Pittsburgh deal for the Kraken, and I'm definitely not a fan at all of the Bjorkstrand-Kakko swap. I think it's important to note that even if Seattle is a seller, they'd in all likelihood be conducting a soft sell. Important contributors with term/RFA control would be quite difficult to pry away from them, as Ron Francis and co. would be relying on those players to return to the playoffs and beyond next season and in the near future.

Tolvanen is young enough to be part of that future core for the Kraken, and has really fit in well with the team since arriving. He's much more of a sure thing than Broz and POJ, so for that reason I believe the Kraken would elect to just hang onto Tolvy if this offer presented itself. POJ isn't the best fit on the team anyway with Ryker Evans around. FWIW, I'm not sure this is a smart swap for the Penguins either, they already have the oldest roster in the NHL and that isn't getting them anywhere, I think at this point they should probably hold onto all the young players/prospects they can.

Kakko still has promise and talent that could be unlocked with a change of scenery, and contributes in other ways than offense, but there is no way it's worth it for the Kraken to trade one of their best forwards in his prime for him, let alone also retain half of Bjorkstrand's salary for the next two and a half seasons on top of that. I don't think Kakko alone has that level of trade value at this point, and his ceiling at this stage might be comparable to what Bjorkstrand is now. Bjorkstrand is the more sure thing than Kakko right now and with his age and contract situation is also expected to be a part of the emerging Kraken core, so Seattle would likely prefer Bjorky to Kakko.
Dec. 26, 2023 at 7:14 p.m.
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Islanders aren't trading that package for Guentzel, so they won't need a replacement for Pageau.
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 7:11 p.m.
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I don't see a scenario where Seattle is willing to retain salary for multiple years. Bjorkstrand is also a top contributor with 2 more years of control at a really nice cap hit. Seattle would need a pretty amazing deal to trade him away and retain salary for multiple years. The other thing that will be interesting to follow is how Tatar plays in Seattle. It's a small sample, but Tatar is almost averaging a point per game with Seattle. If he is at or near point per game pace with Seattle at the deadline, he'll likely get more than a 4th. A bit of a gamble, but if a team can get a point per game player at 1.5 at the deadline or even 750k that will garner a 2nd rounder at 750k for sure, and no worse than a 3rd at 1.5. That being said, Seattle could probably flip him for a 4th today if they wanted to lock in the better trade pick than the 5th today.
 
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