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Middleton and Foligno

Created by: AyyPavy
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 28, 2023
Published: Dec. 28, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
STL
  1. 2024 5th round pick (VAN)
2.
TOR
  1. Lyubushkin, Ilya ($1,000,000 retained)
ANA
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
3.
MIN
  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$83,500,000$81,434,783$0$0$2,065,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,100,000$3,100,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$775,000$775,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Minnesota Wild
$2,450,000$2,450,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
-$312,500-$312,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 3
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$875,000$875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1

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Dec. 28, 2023 at 11:42 a.m.
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we are keeping Sunny, he is important to the bottom 6 and will help with young guys coming into the roster. I am hoping he extends for 3 x 2,000,000 or something along those lines
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 11:47 a.m.
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What an absolute waste of assets. Timmins is way better than Lybushkin, and nothing in the Minnesota trade is worth what we are giving up. A bottom 6 forward and a 3rd pair defender doesn't do anything for us.
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
What an absolute waste of assets. Timmins is way better than Lybushkin, and nothing in the Minnesota trade is worth what we are giving up. A bottom 6 forward and a 3rd pair defender doesn't do anything for us.


Minnesota declines this, btw. Middleton is a second pair guy. Foligno is a piece that teams give up LOADS for to have on their third line in the playoffs.
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:15 p.m.
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Value is fine ig but I think the blues would rather keep him at that price
Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.
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Quoting: AyyPavy
Minnesota declines this, btw. Middleton is a second pair guy. Foligno is a piece that teams give up LOADS for to have on their third line in the playoffs.


Middleton is similar to McCabe. It's not a good time if he's your best "Shutdown defender". This doesn't make TO better just more of the same. They still end up having the same problems.
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
What an absolute waste of assets. Timmins is way better than Lybushkin, and nothing in the Minnesota trade is worth what we are giving up. A bottom 6 forward and a 3rd pair defender doesn't do anything for us.


i agree with you that these are not the types of moves toronto should be making. however, i think you are undervaluing foligno and middleton. both are very good hockey players
Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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Quoting: The_Rocket
i agree with you that these are not the types of moves toronto should be making. however, i think you are undervaluing foligno and middleton. both are very good hockey players


Sure, but do they put TO over the top? Is Middleton going to be a game changing shutdown defender TO absolutely needs? No. Is Foligno going to impact the bottom 6 in a way that changes it into a force? Absolutely not. Do they improve the depth? Yes but this isn't the year to throw all your chips in the middle. Better moves in the summer could have changed things but now it's clear this team is missing a lot throwing all the young assets we have away to make minor improvements isn't wise.b
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Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.
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We Need D!!
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Love the targets. I think this would make the team much better. No one listens to RipNasty.lol. Troll on every post. I think it would cost us Cowan over Robertson to get Foligno though with a new 5 year deal he had at a good AAV. I think I would still do it though
Dec. 28, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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The blues will keep Oskar and re-sign him for a cheap contract extension most likely. He's a likable player in our bottom 6
 
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