Why you shouldnt trade for any Sharks

Forums/Armchair-GM

Page 1 of 1

Created by: pavelski_tip_in

Team: 2023-24 San Jose Sharks

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 6, 2024

Published: Jan. 6, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

These descriptions don't reflect the whole of the argument, but just the reasons not to trade for these Sharks players.

Cap considerations are largely ignored, but I tried to at least resemble fair values in trades.

Trades

SJS

Johansen, Ryan
2026 2nd round pick (COL)

COL

Granlund, Mikael

Additional Details:

Granlund has been great for the Sharks, but isn't 2C caliber for a contender. He's notorious for playing poorly after being traded and won't carry a line on his own. Has an extra year left on his deal.

SJS

Frederic, Trent
Geekie, Morgan
Grzelcyk, Matt
2025 3rd round pick (BOS)
2026 1st round pick (BOS)

BOS

Hertl, Tomas

Additional Details:

Hertl has 7 years left on his deal taking him to his age 37 season. Has had injury issues in the past. Is probably in the top 30 of centers in the league, but is not a cornerstone 1C.

SJS

2024 3rd round pick (DET)
2025 4th round pick (BOS)

DET

Sturm, Nico

Additional Details:

Sturm earns too much to be your 4C, and isn't quite good enough to center a playoff 3rd line. Has 4 points this season and is currently injured.

SJS

Niemelä, Topi
2024 3rd round pick (NYI)

TOR

Ferraro, Mario

Additional Details:

Ferraro is known for his effort and leadership. Blocks a lot of shots. Has finally developed some offensive instinct, but doesn't know what to do close to net. Is frequently hemmed into his own end and gives up too many shots against. As the team leader in ice time, the Sharks defense is the worst in the league. Probably works as a 4/5D but gets paid too much for that.

SJS

2025 3rd round pick (EDM)

EDM

Blackwood, Mackenzie

Additional Details:

Had a strong start to the season, but has tapered off significantly. Is currently at a -9 Goals Saved above Average and 89% save percentage.

SJS

2024 5th round pick (NYR)
2026 3rd round pick (NYR)

NYR

Duclair, Anthony ($1,500,000 retained)

Additional Details:

Contributed goals during a 20 game stretch for the Sharks, but outside of those games hasn't scored much. Was benched for not giving enough effort.

SJS

VGK

Additional Details:

Placeholder team.

All 3 of these score first wingers haven't done much scoring at all this season. Frequently pushed down in the lineup or spent time in the press box. Too expensive except for Barabanov who unfortunately hasn't looked the same after a solid campaign last season. Barabanov has also been out injured for a large chunk of games.

SJS

Raanta, Antti
2024 2nd round pick (CAR)

CAR

Kähkönen, Kaapo

Additional Details:

Kahkonen has been decent, but is coming off the worst season of his career. Has had a save percentage that frequently dips below .900, but has salvaged things with a .909 in his last ten games. Is 10 games of okay play enough to stake your whole playoff run on (after a -25 goals saved above average last season)?

SJS

2025 4th round pick (NJD)

NJD

Rutta, Jan

Additional Details:

At this stage in his career he's playing like a 6th defenseman, which is not an efficient use of $2.75M of cap in this constrained environment. Has an additional year left on his deal, so retention will be harder to come by.

10.

SJS

BUF

Couture, Logan

Additional Details:

Was worried about having to retire due to most recent injury. Hasn't played all year. Play doesn't justify a 1C spot on a playoff contender. Has 3 years left on a deal with a high cap hit. Retention not likely.

Buyouts

Martin Jones: $2,916,667
Rūdolfs Balcers: $308,334

Retained Salary Transactions

Brent Burns: $2,720,000 (34%)
Erik Karlsson: $1,500,000 (13.04%)
Anthony Duclair: $1,500,000 (50%)

Buried

Oskar Lindblom: $1,350,000 ($2,500,000)
Radim Simek: $1,100,000 ($2,250,000)
Nikolai Knyzhov: $100,000 ($1,250,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

EMBED

TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
18	$83,500,000	$47,791,668	$25,000	$1,145,000	$35,708,332

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing

	Johansen, Ryan $4,000,000$4,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2
Eklund, William $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LW RFA - 3
Frederic, Trent $2,300,000$2,300,000 LW, RW UFA - 2		Kunin, Luke $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C RFA - 1
	Bailey, Justin $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 1	Zetterlund, Fabian $1,450,000$1,450,000 RW RFA - 2
		Zadina, Filip $1,100,000$1,100,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
		Carpenter, Ryan $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 1
		Geekie, Morgan $2,000,000$2,000,000 C, RW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard $7,000,000$7,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Addison, Calen $825,000$825,000 RD RFA - 1
Niemelä, Topi $856,667$856,667 RD RFA - 2	Emberson, Ty $775,000$775,000 RD RFA - 1	Raanta, Antti $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 1
Grzelcyk, Matt $3,687,500$3,687,500 LD UFA - 1
Burroughs, Kyle $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD/RD UFA - 3
Thrun, Henry $912,500$912,500 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 1
Okhotiuk, Nikita $789,167$789,167 ($82,500$82K) LD RFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Benning, Matthew $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 3
	MacDonald, Jacob $762,500$762,500 LD/RD UFA - 1
	Smith, Givani $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2

Jan. 6 at 8:42 p.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

Joined: Nov. 2022

Posts: 7,665

Likes: 5,590

Detroit has too many overpaid centers (1, but still)

HockeyManiac95 and aedoran liked this.

Jan. 6 at 8:45 p.m.

HockeyManiac95

and proud of it

Joined: Feb. 2023

Posts: 2,256

Likes: 1,605

Thx for the input

JoeROFLCOPTER liked this.

Jan. 6 at 9:00 p.m.

goodfella

Grierless Sharks Fan

Joined: Dec. 2017

Posts: 2,962

Likes: 927

Fold the franchise.

Jan. 6 at 9:14 p.m.

Celtics21

Joined: May 2023

Posts: 3,765

Likes: 1,172

If a Hertl to Boston deal happens, my belief is it will be in the offseason based on Boston’s current cap. The Bruins can’t get to the cap position for Hertl this year without Ullmark being traded

Jan. 6 at 9:18 p.m.

Lancebmx

Joined: Oct. 2020

Posts: 10,506

Likes: 8,143

I would still take Sturm. His cap hit isn't much of an issue for Detroit. We have been running Fischer as 4C lately.....

aedoran liked this.

Jan. 6 at 9:20 p.m.

Lancebmx

Joined: Oct. 2020

Posts: 10,506

Likes: 8,143

Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Detroit has too many overpaid centers (1, but still)

I would take Sturm. Fischer at 4C is not ideal.

aedoran liked this.

Jan. 6 at 9:32 p.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

Joined: Nov. 2022

Posts: 7,665

Likes: 5,590

Quoting: Lancebmx

I would take Sturm. Fischer at 4C is not ideal.

Rather have a pick than worry about our 4C considering we're unlikely to make the playoffs anyways.

Jan. 6 at 9:49 p.m.

Lancebmx

Joined: Oct. 2020

Posts: 10,506

Likes: 8,143

Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Rather have a pick than worry about our 4C considering we're unlikely to make the playoffs anyways.

He has another year which is why I have targeted him in the past.

Jan. 6 at 9:56 p.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

Joined: Nov. 2022

Posts: 7,665

Likes: 5,590

Quoting: Lancebmx

He has another year which is why I have targeted him in the past.

Meh. He's a 4C. Any pick beyond a 4th is too much for a 4C.

aedoran liked this.

Jan. 7 at 1:19 a.m.

#10

Lancebmx

Joined: Oct. 2020

Posts: 10,506

Likes: 8,143

Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Meh. He's a 4C. Any pick beyond a 4th is too much for a 4C.

I get that. Just not alot in free agency next Offseason so I would try to acquire him. A guy like him or Faksa, as much as people hate on him, if the price was cheap enough. I would be comfortable sending a third but not much more. I just think we need better defensive forwards and more physical forwards in the bottom six. Ideally ones that don't take alot penalties either.

aedoran liked this.

Jan. 7 at 4:25 a.m.

#11

aedoran

Joined: Dec. 2017

Posts: 21,691

Likes: 12,038

Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Detroit has too many overpaid centers (1, but still)

Quoting: Lancebmx

I would take Sturm. Fischer at 4C is not ideal.

Quoting: Lancebmx

Keep Kostin and Sprong we know they fit in and play well in the system. Then I think Berggren coming up and Veleno and Rasmussen coming back makes more sense than acquiring Faska or Sturm. If you didn't have to give up any assets to get one of them then take a shot but since you'd have to trade to get one of them it's just not worth it.

Page 1 of 1

DISPLAY SETTING

BETTING ODDS

LOCALE

ARCHIVE

CBA

CALCULATORS

FANTASY HOCKEY TOOLS

TOOLS

PLAYERS

WESTERN CONFERENCE

EASTERN CONFERENCE

INTERACTIVE FEATURES

Forums/Armchair-GM