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Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 9, 2024
Published: Jan. 9, 2024
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These are the only 2 I can think of
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  1. Spence, Jordan
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  1. Roy, Matt
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    Jan. 9 at 7:36 p.m.
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    Chabot for Arvidsson ++?
    Jan. 9 at 7:36 p.m.
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    Quoting: sens65
    Chabot for Arvidsson ++?


    Why would they scout arvidsson when he’s not playing .

    Imagine it’s Norris for Dubois . He’s playing 4C today 💀
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    Jan. 9 at 7:38 p.m.
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    Why would they scout arvidsson when he’s not playing .

    Imagine it’s Norris for Dubois . He’s playing 4C today 💀


    I am not a Dubois fan, but there's no chance that Blake is shopping him this early into his new contract.
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    Jan. 9 at 7:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: csick
    Why would they scout arvidsson when he’s not playing .

    Imagine it’s Norris for Dubois . He’s playing 4C today 💀


    Quoting: sens65
    Chabot for Arvidsson ++?


    Have you guys heard the Philly rumor?
    Jan. 9 at 7:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    I am not a Dubois fan, but there's no chance that Blake is shopping him this early into his new contract.


    I think it’s gonna be Roy extended for Chychrun give or take picks. Chychrun will sign a new deal and they’ll get cap relief once Gavrikov is off the books
    Jan. 9 at 7:39 p.m.
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    Why would they scout arvidsson when he’s not playing .

    Imagine it’s Norris for Dubois . He’s playing 4C today 💀


    Well, in this case they'd be scouting the ++ part. Which could be Spence, Kaliyev, etc.
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    Jan. 9 at 7:39 p.m.
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    Quoting: BillytheKid3
    Have you guys heard the Philly rumor?


    Yes I’m not against it personally
    Jan. 9 at 7:40 p.m.
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    Yes I’m not against it personally


    The Bonk/Hart for Bath, Korpisalo and Pinto + picks?

    Just making sure it’s the same one
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    Jan. 9 at 7:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: BillytheKid3
    The Bonk/Hart for Bath, Korpisalo and Pinto + picks?

    Just making sure it’s the same one


    Yes
    Jan. 9 at 7:44 p.m.
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    There's a greater chance of Matt Roy coming home to Detroit, Then signing with Ottawa. There's already been reports that he won't play in Canada long term.
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    Jan. 9 at 7:44 p.m.
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    Yes


    I guess that would validate Norris and Grieg has the 2-3 C’s.

    They become untouchable.

    Hart and Sogaard would be a cool 1-1A situation.

    Bonk in Ottawa couldn’t be more perfect.
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    Jan. 9 at 7:47 p.m.
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    I think it’s gonna be Roy extended for Chychrun give or take picks. Chychrun will sign a new deal and they’ll get cap relief once Gavrikov is off the books


    Quoting: MoSeider53
    There's a greater chance of Matt Roy coming home to Detroit, Then signing with Ottawa. There's already been reports that he won't play in Canada long term.


    I'd still put good money down that Roy extends in LA. Blake had said during training camp that they intended to work on extensions for Roy and Arvidsson "after the holidays." Arvidsson's injuries might have thrown a wrench into his negotiations, but I think they still intend to keep Roy.

    Brock Faber was the prospect that was supposed to make Roy expendable. Since he was traded, the Kings have zero defensive defenseman in the pipeline. Not a single one. They need Matt Roy.
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    Jan. 9 at 7:50 p.m.
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    I'd still put good money down that Roy extends in LA. Blake had said during training camp that they intended to work on extensions for Roy and Arvidsson "after the holidays." Arvidsson's injuries might have thrown a wrench into his negotiations, but I think they still intend to keep Roy.

    Brock Faber was the prospect that was supposed to make Roy expendable. Since he was traded, the Kings have zero defensive defenseman in the pipeline. Not a single one. They need Matt Roy.


    But you have Doughty, Clarke and Spence
    Jan. 9 at 7:52 p.m.
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    I'd still put good money down that Roy extends in LA. Blake had said during training camp that they intended to work on extensions for Roy and Arvidsson "after the holidays." Arvidsson's injuries might have thrown a wrench into his negotiations, but I think they still intend to keep Roy.

    Brock Faber was the prospect that was supposed to make Roy expendable. Since he was traded, the Kings have zero defensive defenseman in the pipeline. Not a single one. They need Matt Roy.


    I think he re-ups with LA as well, But with Brandt Clarke coming up. It's not a forgone conclusion that Roy is back.
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    Jan. 9 at 7:53 p.m.
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    But you have Doughty, Clarke and Spence


    Spence is on his way out. Just like Clarke, he is an offense-first guy. The Kings only have room for one of them.
    Jan. 9 at 8:08 p.m.
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    Brant Clark is from Nepean Ontario….
    Jan. 9 at 8:09 p.m.
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    First winter storm of the year in Ottawa. I'd rather be in Tampa if I had a choice.
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    Jan. 9 at 8:13 p.m.
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    I could see the Kings doing Spence, Kaliyev, and a 1st for Chychrun at 50% retention.
    Jan. 9 at 8:16 p.m.
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    you do realize they could be scouting tampa and not the kings
    Jan. 9 at 8:17 p.m.
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    Quoting: BillytheKid3
    The Bonk/Hart for Bath, Korpisalo and Pinto + picks?

    Just making sure it’s the same one


    ya that wont happen, Hart aint worth more than a 2nd round pick and Bonk is not an A prospect, both dont even come close the the value of Bath or Pinto
    Jan. 9 at 8:18 p.m.
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    Quoting: tkecanuck341
    I could see the Kings doing Spence, Kaliyev, and a 1st for Chychrun at 50% retention.


    not even close to value for a #1 Dman
    Jan. 9 at 8:21 p.m.
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    not even close to value for a #1 Dman


    He's not even a #2 defenseman on the Kings. He'd be taking Gavrikov's spot on the 2nd pair.
    Jan. 9 at 8:25 p.m.
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    ya that wont happen, Hart aint worth more than a 2nd round pick and Bonk is not an A prospect, both dont even come close the the value of Bath or Pinto


    Really? Hart isn’t worth more.

    You don’t think Edmonton or Toronto wouldn’t pick up the phone in that case? Not much more than a 2nd….
    Jan. 9 at 8:28 p.m.
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    Quoting: BillytheKid3
    Really? Hart isn’t worth more.

    You don’t think Edmonton or Toronto wouldn’t pick up the phone in that case? Not much more than a 2nd….


    with the campbell experiment a total disaster, i dont think EDM would be dumb enough to trade anything significant for a G that has been below average for the last few years minus this year who is barely average. G are not worth remotly close to other position for that reason, they are to volatile, they can be vezina like one year and the next they crash like campbell
    Jan. 9 at 8:34 p.m.
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    Quoting: athrin
    with the campbell experiment a total disaster, i dont think EDM would be dumb enough to trade anything significant for a G that has been below average for the last few years minus this year who is barely average. G are not worth remotly close to other position for that reason, they are to volatile, they can be vezina like one year and the next they crash like campbell


    So from from the Edmonton and not Ottawa perspective.

    Teams pay 2nd rounders for rentals all the time, you don’t think they would consider some type of package to try and acquire him after the “Campbell disaster”

    More from a value perspective.
     
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