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This feels fair

Created by: James_ick
Published: Jan. 15 at 4:26 p.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 94/192 (49%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Tanev, ChristopherCalgary FlamesNHL25%$3,375,000011---40178--
Lindholm, EliasCalgary FlamesNHL25%$3,637,500011---4382028--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Myers, TylerVancouver CanucksNHL-$6,000,000011---4331518--
Woo, JettVancouver CanucksMinor-$0011---0000--
Höglander, NilsVancouver CanucksNHL-$1,100,000011---4112517--
Podkolzin, VasilyWaivers ExemptVancouver CanucksMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---100------
2024 4th round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---001------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$4,605,1672245643710
Change-$87,500022101
Final$4,517,667 (↓)2247 (↑)66 (↑)4 (↑)711 (↑)6-7-1

Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVancouver Canucks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Myers, TylerVancouver CanucksNHL-$6,000,000011---4331518--
Woo, JettVancouver CanucksMinor-$0011---0000--
Höglander, NilsVancouver CanucksNHL-$1,100,000011---4112517--
Podkolzin, VasilyWaivers ExemptVancouver CanucksMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---100------
2024 4th round pick (Logo of the Vancouver CanucksVAN)---001------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Tanev, ChristopherCalgary FlamesNHL25%$3,375,000011---40178--
Lindholm, EliasCalgary FlamesNHL25%$3,637,500011---4382028--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$332,5002346683312
Change$87,5000-2-2-10-1
Final$420,000 (↑)2344 (↓)66 (↓)2 (↓)311 (↓)-671
Jan. 15 at 4:38 p.m.
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it is not the canucks are overpaying for a same skill defensman and a player they don't need at the moment
Jan. 15 at 4:39 p.m.
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Not even close. That pile of trash might get Tanev alone but that's it. Myers is a cap dump, Woo, Hoglander and Podkolzin aren't worth much combined.
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Jan. 15 at 4:49 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Not even close. That pile of trash might get Tanev alone but that's it. Myers is a cap dump, Woo, Hoglander and Podkolzin aren't worth much combined.


Hoglander and Podkolzin are each worth an early 2nd/late 1st, same as Tanev. Myers is in to make salary work, which typically doesn’t cost anything at the deadline (look at Beauvillier in the Horvat deal as an example). Might need to upgrade Woo and the 4th to a slightly better singular piece, but a 1st, Hoglander/Podkolzin, and another piece for Lindholm is fair (again, look at the Horvat trade)

Also the “pile of trash” Hoglander has 12 goals this season compared to Lindholm’s 8. He’d be 4th on Calgary in goals
Jan. 15 at 6:01 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Not even close. That pile of trash might get Tanev alone but that's it. Myers is a cap dump, Woo, Hoglander and Podkolzin aren't worth much combined.


While I argue this isn't trash, there is a lot of underwhelming pieces getting 2 legit top 4/top 6 guys.

Hoglander, 2024 first, Kuzmenko OR Myers(cap reasons), a top prospect or 2 in our system not named Wallinder, Lekkermaki, or Bruz.

Woo is probably at best a 6th rounder in value himself, Podz on a good day is a 3rd. The value just isn't there for the Flames on this one. Especially to a division rival, with using 2/3 retention slots.
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Jan. 15 at 11:17 p.m.
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While I argue this isn't trash, there is a lot of underwhelming pieces getting 2 legit top 4/top 6 guys.

Hoglander, 2024 first, Kuzmenko OR Myers(cap reasons), a top prospect or 2 in our system not named Wallinder, Lekkermaki, or Bruz.

Woo is probably at best a 6th rounder in value himself, Podz on a good day is a 3rd. The value just isn't there for the Flames on this one. Especially to a division rival, with using 2/3 retention slots.


i can barely make out what your saying.but i am wondering if you know anything about the canucks system,because if you think a high pick like Podkolzin,who is developing nicely,is only worth a 3rd pick,well you just shouldnt be commenting.
Jan. 16 at 1:23 a.m.
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i can barely make out what your saying.but i am wondering if you know anything about the canucks system,because if you think a high pick like Podkolzin,who is developing nicely,is only worth a 3rd pick,well you just shouldnt be commenting.


He's not anywhere near where a 10th overall pick should be 4 years after draft year. He may crack a bottom 6 at best in his career. He should not be in the AHL anymore in his draft +4 year...
He's probably not even worth a 3rd right now, and it gets worse the older he gets and the less likely it is he cracks the NHL roster.
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Jan. 16 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
He's not anywhere near where a 10th overall pick should be 4 years after draft year. He may crack a bottom 6 at best in his career. He should not be in the AHL anymore in his draft +4 year...
He's probably not even worth a 3rd right now, and it gets worse the older he gets and the less likely it is he cracks the NHL roster.


ok you agree with moxnix the biggest canuck basher on here.podkolzin is 22 yrs old,and will be on the canucks 3rd line at the very worst,he is a good prospect.I am a canuck and flame fan.MoxNix is the biggest homer on here,and has never had a fair balanced take on here yet.but Hitagi Senpai you are the opposite,your supposed to be a canuck fan,but if you were Gm you would make Jimbo look like a genius.i am starting to think your just pretending to support the canucks,because you rarely make any sense for the good of the canucks.KID.
Jan. 16 at 1:51 p.m.
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ok you agree with moxnix the biggest canuck basher on here.podkolzin is 22 yrs old,and will be on the canucks 3rd line at the very worst,he is a good prospect.I am a canuck and flame fan.MoxNix is the biggest homer on here,and has never had a fair balanced take on here yet.but Hitagi Senpai you are the opposite,your supposed to be a canuck fan,but if you were Gm you would make Jimbo look like a genius.i am starting to think your just pretending to support the canucks,because you rarely make any sense for the good of the canucks.KID.


Canucks fan and Canucks homer is different. Podz is far from being worth a late first or early second at this point in his career. He's a good 4th liner, a bad 3rd liner as his ceiling right now. Which is no where near what a 10th overall pick should have been... If Vancouver wanted a forward during that draft. Boldy, Caufield, and Krebs were all on the board still and taken shortly afterwards. Podz is a bust just accept that. Anyone without homer blinders will see that.
Jan. 16 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Hitagi_Senpai
Canucks fan and Canucks homer is different. Podz is far from being worth a late first or early second at this point in his career. He's a good 4th liner, a bad 3rd liner as his ceiling right now. Which is no where near what a 10th overall pick should have been... If Vancouver wanted a forward during that draft. Boldy, Caufield, and Krebs were all on the board still and taken shortly afterwards. Podz is a bust just accept that. Anyone without homer blinders will see that.


podkolzin was rushed so has developed slower.look at holloway in edm,and compare to someone developed properly like zary.Podkolzin is not a bust,hes big and will be a real good 3rd line winger,he is producing in the minors.i never said he was the best pick,but you have very little value on him,i would keep him.he is probably ready to come up now,but they have the 24 yr old karlsson as there 13th forward,because podkolzin is developing.im not a homer because i bash Moxnix for being one,he proposed Huberdeau for JT Miller with the canucks retaining.
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