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Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 24, 2024
Published: Jan. 24, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
BUF
  1. Brodie, TJ
  2. Robertson, Nicholas
  3. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
  4. 2025 3rd round pick (TOR)
2.
MTL
  1. Holmberg, Pontus
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. 2024 3rd round pick (NYI)
  4. 2025 5th round pick (TOR)
3.
TOR
  1. Seeler, Nick
  2. 2024 6th round pick (PHI)
4.
ANA
  1. Timmins, Conor
  2. 2024 6th round pick (TOR)
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
24$83,500,000$81,484,783$0$500,000$2,015,217
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$2,500,000$2,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Anaheim Ducks
$425,000$425,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$875,000$875,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
$1,625,000$1,625,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Jan. 24 at 2:04 p.m.
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1- Sabres aren’t trading Greenway
2- you’re offering nothing we’d actually want anyways
Jan. 24 at 2:05 p.m.
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Habs pass, we have no reason to move Savard and this wouldn't interest us if we did
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Jan. 24 at 2:06 p.m.
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Buffalo and Philly decline leafs decline Montreal lily>savard and you want us to add? Cmon man
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Jan. 24 at 2:06 p.m.
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Quoting: AntiAnalytics
1- Sabres aren’t trading Greenway
2- you’re offering nothing we’d actually want anyways


Rumours are Florida is making an offer for him. He is not worth a 1st or 2nd
Jan. 24 at 2:07 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Buffalo and Philly decline leafs decline Montreal lily>savard and you want us to add? Cmon man


You honestly believe in your heart that Lily is better than Savard? Must be just trolling me.
Jan. 24 at 2:07 p.m.
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We're one "Sam Carrick" away from a cup, I swear
Jan. 24 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: DealFinder67
You honestly believe in your heart that Lily is better than Savard? Must be just trolling me.


Just stating facts dude
Jan. 24 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Habs pass, we have no reason to move Savard and this wouldn't interest us if we did


That’s a pretty decent package for Savard. IMO
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Jan. 24 at 2:09 p.m.
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Quoting: SirRobo
We're one "Sam Carrick" away from a cup, I swear


🤣
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Jan. 24 at 2:11 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Just stating facts dude


😂 you must be an analytic guy. Give me a break. Watch the games and not the numbers. No one that watches hockey will say that Lily(bottom pair guy) is better than Savard(who plays against the other teams best players)
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Jan. 24 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: DealFinder67
😂 you must be an analytic guy. Give me a break. Watch the games and not the numbers. No one that watches hockey will say that Lily(bottom pair guy) is better than Savard(who plays against the other teams best players)


Lily should be on the top pair over Brodie Brodie sucks now but Keefe needs to go he’s destroying this team he doesn’t give any of the young guys a chance
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Jan. 24 at 2:14 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Lily should be on the top pair over Brodie Brodie sucks now but Keefe needs to go he’s destroying this team he doesn’t give any of the young guys a chance


You’re absolutely right that Brodie sucks. Keefe and Tre have been making terrible decisions all year. But you’re saying our top pair of Rielly and Lily would be better than Rielly and Savard?
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Jan. 24 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: DealFinder67
You’re absolutely right that Brodie sucks. Keefe and Tre have been making terrible decisions all year. But you’re saying our top pair of Rielly and Lily would be better than Rielly and Savard?


Yes without a doubt
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Jan. 24 at 2:19 p.m.
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Quoting: SomeonesOffended
Yes without a doubt


Well when Tkachuk and Bennett are in Wolls kitchen, at least Lily will be there to ask them to stop politely 🤦‍♂️
Jan. 24 at 2:23 p.m.
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Make something out of nothing....and by that you mean take something and turn it to ****. You never fail to make a terrible post at the leafs expense.
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Jan. 24 at 2:24 p.m.
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Quoting: DealFinder67
That’s a pretty decent package for Savard. IMO


Not really.

Holmberg is an undersized almost 25 yo depth forward, we already have Gally and RHP in the bottom 6 don't need Holmberg too.

Liljegren is good and is ok as a filling for Savard but he is also 25, undersized for a D man and can't clear the front of the net or block pucks, just not a good long-term fit.

These are mid round picks that we have 10 of in the next 2 drafts, not interested in adding 2 more.
Jan. 24 at 2:27 p.m.
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Quoting: DealFinder67
Rumours are Florida is making an offer for him. He is not worth a 1st or 2nd


They can offer all they want
Doesn’t mean the Sabres will accept

Our coach LOVES Greenway
Their history together goes way back
And he’s played well for us

I understand why other teams would be interested,
but he’s just not a guy we are looking to move
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Jan. 24 at 2:30 p.m.
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Wow just a week or so ago Samsonov could have been claimed for nothing and now he is worth a solid (cheap) defender and a pick? Seriously!? Seeler is worth a 3rd and maybe more. The Flyers aren't trading for a goalie, this clearly something they knew could happen.
Jan. 24 at 2:31 p.m.
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You are giving us nothing to try to make something
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Jan. 24 at 2:40 p.m.
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Can't see Sabres trading with the Leafs. 😬
Jan. 24 at 2:41 p.m.
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Quoting: BleedOrange23
Wow just a week or so ago Samsonov could have been claimed for nothing and now he is worth a solid (cheap) defender and a pick? Seriously!? Seeler is worth a 3rd and maybe more. The Flyers aren't trading for a goalie, this clearly something they knew could happen.


Sammy will once again be the scapegoat soon enough.
Jan. 24 at 2:57 p.m.
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Quoting: DealFinder67
You honestly believe in your heart that Lily is better than Savard? Must be just trolling me.


Savard and Lily are 2 different players not taking into consideration the fit for the team just looking at the player liljegren is by far the better option.

Savard is better defensively but is older and way slower with no offensive ability. Lily is just stating to hit that age that D start to blossom.
Jan. 24 at 3:01 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
Not really.

Holmberg is an undersized almost 25 yo depth forward, we already have Gally and RHP in the bottom 6 don't need Holmberg too.

Liljegren is good and is ok as a filling for Savard but he is also 25, undersized for a D man and can't clear the front of the net or block pucks, just not a good long-term fit.

These are mid round picks that we have 10 of in the next 2 drafts, not interested in adding 2 more.


Habs would take that deal and run, One for one Lily is the better option over Savard and its the Habs that should be adding
Jan. 24 at 3:17 p.m.
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Habs would take that deal and run, One for one Lily is the better option over Savard and its the Habs that should be adding


What is Lily better at? He doesn't block shots, he doesn't clear the front of the net, he isn't physical and Savard is out scoring him, so what is he better at?
Jan. 24 at 3:30 p.m.
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What is Lily better at? He doesn't block shots, he doesn't clear the front of the net, he isn't physical and Savard is out scoring him, so what is he better at?


Do you watch Leaf's games? he's more physical than he gets credit for. He has more hits than Savard, Lily is the by far the better skater, puck moving/passer, offensive.

as far as blocked shots he has 62 to Savard's 78 not that far off and with all that said he's 9 years younger on a cheaper contact that's cost controlled.
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