Blues still cannot trade Parayko.

Cgy declines. If they commit to moving assets it won't be for a bunch of stuff, they need some mix of 1st/2nd round picks/prospects coming back in any of the trades they make.
This is especially true for any retention they give, that alone would cost something like a mid round pick

Calgary would take this trade easy

Brodie =< Tanev not a huge difference

Then you get 2 more players and 2 picks?

Still a no from Stl
Guys we’ve been over this, give us some good prices back that work and it might happen. Until then can I interest you in a Krug or Leddy or even a nice Faulk

I'll let the Flames fans weigh in but from what I've heard this isn't what they want for Tanev.
What value do those players have? Holmberg is a bottom 6 player thus far and Abruzzese is a career AHLer with 2 NHL games at 24 years old. Those aren't assets that intrigue a team looking for futures and picks. A third is what you're paying in retention so its Brodie and a 3rd for Tanev, with Brodie being a UFA and 33 years old?

What the FANS want and what he's worth are 2 different things

Tanev is worth a 2nd round pick. Like I said Brodie is worth about the same they are not far off each other with Tanev being the slightly better player.

So for that slight difference the Leaf's are giving up 2 x 3rd round picks and 2 more players regardless of their value,

I would say that the 2 x 3rd round picks are more than enough on their own and so would brodie and 1 of Abruzzese or Holmberg

I would also expect 50% retention in those deals

Still very much no

It isn't regardless of their value, if they have no value then it doesn't matter that they're included in a deal.

Let's say Brodie and Tanev are equal in value, why would the Flames trade to be in roughly the same spot as they were before the trade? They would just turn around and try to move Brodie (who from what I've seen doesn't seem to be drawing the same interest as Tanev even though it appears Toronto would be more than willing to part with him). Why not just move Tanev for younger pieces in the first place instead of getting back another older Dman? The Flames management (not just the fans) want FUTURES or young players like in the Sharangovich deal, and 2 thirds and a 33 year old player they would have to turn around and trade doesn't do it.

Of course this doesn't include the fact that Calgary is taking on a million in cap here for Brodie and Tanev (with 500k retained)

Regardless, I think we just have different valuations of Tanev so there isn't much more to touch on

Brodie is not being shopped (other than on here) So that's why there is no interest.

I agree it make no sense for the Leaf's to move Brodie to add Tanev as it leaves both teams in the same situation, They would want to add Tanev and keep Brodie

Liljegren will be far more cost effective than Parayko who is massively overrated.

Hold up. So the guy your lot constantly claims is the worst and has the worst contract and worst worst awful terrible horrible is overrated? And massively so, no less.

When do you guys just give in actually watch some hockey?

You can't tell the difference between leaf fans and trolls 90% of "leaf fans" on this site **** post the Leafs constantly. Liljegren is a very good player and has all his best years ahead of him. Parayko has been not very good since Pietrangelo left. He needs to be carried

Ahh if only you realized how hopelessly backwards this take is... Parayko is carrying the entire defense and half the forwards. Seriously. Just watch one game. How hard is this?

Carrying the defence? But they aren't successful defensively. He has poor defensive numbers and if that's carrying the team then it's clear he can't do that. Was great when he played 2nd pair minutes behind Pietrangelo but st Louis isn't good and he isn't carrying anything.