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Created by: mvp13

Team: 2023-24 New York Rangers

Initial Creation Date: Feb. 5, 2024

Published: Feb. 5, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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This is more for fun, I still think ANA is their best dance partner this deadline. Just looking at some different options. This would only happen if SEA falls out of the wild card race, which is another reason I don't think it's a good fit... NYR oughta act now and not wait until March.

I know I'm leaving some money on the table paying for these retentions, my reasoning is so that NYR can pay all their performance bonuses from this year's cap and not have to worry next year. At the end of the day, retention on Duclair isn't needed.

Trades

NYR

Gourde, Yanni ($2,166,666 retained)

SEA

Kakko, Kaapo
2024 1st round pick (NYR)

NYR

Duclair, Anthony ($1,500,000 retained)

SJS

Jones, Zachary
2024 2nd round pick (NYR)
2026 3rd round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

I'm not entirely sure on SJS' prospect needs; substitute Jones for Robertson if needed, or one of NYR's B-level forward prospects. The 3rd round pick in this trade is for the 50% retention, this can be to SJS or to a 3rd team since SJS only has 1 retention slot left and might need it elsewhere.

NYR

Maroon, Patrick

MIN

Trivigno, Bobby
2024 4th round pick (NYR)

Additional Details:

Whatever lower level prospect would be needed. I ran out of picks :(

Buyouts

Brad Richards: $0

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$81,549,916	$610,892	$882,500	$1,950,084

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kreider, Chris $6,500,000$6,500,000 LW NMC UFA - 4	Zibanejad, Mika $8,500,000$8,500,000 C NMC UFA - 7	Duclair, Anthony $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Panarin, Artemi $11,642,857$11,642,857 LW NMC UFA - 3	Trocheck, Vincent $5,625,000$5,625,000 C, RW NMC UFA - 6	Lafrenière, Alexis $2,325,000$2,325,000 LW, RW RFA - 2
Cuylle, Will $828,333$828,333 ($82,500$82K) LW RFA - 2	Gourde, Yanni $3,000,000$3,000,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 2	Wheeler, Blake $800,000$800,000 ($300,000$300K) RW NTC UFA - 1
Vesey, Jimmy $800,000$800,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Goodrow, Barclay $3,641,667$3,641,667 C, LW M-NTC UFA - 4	Maroon, Patrick $800,000$800,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
Bonino, Nick $800,000$800,000 C, LW UFA - 1		Pitlick, Tyler $787,500$787,500 RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Lindgren, Ryan $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD RFA - 1	Fox, Adam $9,500,000$9,500,000 RD UFA - 6	Shesterkin, Igor $5,666,667$5,666,667 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Miller, K'Andre $3,872,000$3,872,000 LD RFA - 2	Trouba, Jacob $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD NMC UFA - 3	Quick, Jonathan $825,000$825,000 ($100,000$100K) G M-NTC UFA - 1
Gustafsson, Erik $825,000$825,000 LD UFA - 1	Schneider, Braden $925,000$925,000 ($400,000$400K) RD RFA - 1
Mackey, Connor $775,000$775,000 LD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
		Chytil, Filip $4,437,500$4,437,500 C, LW UFA - 4

Feb. 5 at 9:29 a.m.

Your_Next_General_Manager

Hunter Mikosz

Joined: Feb. 2022

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For the good of Seattle, I would accept that trade. They need to work on getting young with the struggle bus they are kind of on.

If San Jose says no to any trade that gives them picks and prospects they are asking to be a toilet seat for the nhl.

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Feb. 5 at 9:37 a.m.

Jimbo1119

Joined: May 2019

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This is pretty bad….
DuClair as 1RW (overpay BTW), and a bottom 6 including 3 slugs.
Quick out in the playoffs.
Then after that disappointment, the cupboard is bare going forward.
No thanks…..Better making no moves than this.

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Feb. 5 at 9:43 a.m.

mvp13

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Quoting: Jimbo1119

Not really sure what you're talking about? What 3 slugs? The guys already on the roster? Then, why would making no moves be better...?

"The cupboard" is still there with the same guys that will make the NHL in Othmann, Perrault, etc. Jones and Trivago (that I sent away here) are never going to make the team full time. Kakko is not in the "cupboard" and isn't really helping right now.

Feb. 5 at 10:10 a.m.

jaysinhorror

Joined: Apr. 2020

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If I were Ron Francis, I'd probably be a little hesitant, which means it's probably close to a fair deal. Maybe the change of scenery gets Kappo going and this deal looks like a huge overpay in three years.

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Feb. 5 at 10:11 a.m.

Jimbo1119

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Quoting: mvp13

Wheeler, Goodrow, and Maroon.
Wouldn’t mind Maroon- just not with the other 2 in the lineup.

As far as the cupboard- looking at the draft board- pretty empty.
Yeah- a few prospects do remain…but nothing guaranteed with any of them, and no maneuverability going forward with the draft board as barren as it is.

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Feb. 5 at 10:52 a.m.

hero9154

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Big time overpay on Duclair. Overpay on Maroon too.

Seattle trade is fair.

Feb. 5 at 11:23 a.m.

KrakBirds23

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Declining Gourde for youth and a pick? sign me up.

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Feb. 5 at 1:28 p.m.

jamnjon

Joined: Jan. 2017

Posts: 317

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Quoting: Your_Next_General_Manager

If San Jose says no to any trade that gives them picks and prospects they are asking to be a toilet seat for the nhl.

Hertl 50% retained + Ferraro + Duclair + Kahkonen all for a 2027 7th round pick!

Exaggeration, but the point I'm trying to make is the price has to be right. In this case the price is higher than it should be so they'd definitely take it (unless they got another offer that was better either involving Duke or another piece they're trying to flip and they're getting a better price for retention).

Feb. 5 at 2:12 p.m.

Your_Next_General_Manager

Hunter Mikosz

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Quoting: jamnjon

Yes all those guys I believe are worth a seventh so you aren't exaggerating.

Feb. 5 at 3:12 p.m.

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mvp13

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Quoting: KrakBirds23

Declining Gourde for youth and a pick? sign me up.

It makes sense for both teams' timelines. Not sure if you were trying to put me down for the NYR side. Gourde will still be plenty effective in the playoffs the next 2 years, I think

Feb. 5 at 3:15 p.m.

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mvp13

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Quoting: hero9154

Big time overpay on Duclair. Overpay on Maroon too.

Seattle trade is fair.

Eh, I disagree. Duclair was very good for FLA, effective in the playoffs. Numbers are down for obvious reasons this year. Part of the package is also for the retention, as stated, and can be left out if NYR choose not to seek retention

Feb. 5 at 5:16 p.m.

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KrakBirds23

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Quoting: mvp13

It makes sense for both teams' timelines. Not sure if you were trying to put me down for the NYR side. Gourde will still be plenty effective in the playoffs the next 2 years, I think

Nope, not trying to put you down. If I was RF I would take that almost straight up. Retained salary may be an issue but the cap is also going up next year so maybe not.

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Feb. 6 at 9:59 a.m.

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hero9154

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Quoting: mvp13

You could probably get Duclair retained for a 3rd and 5th (or mid level prospect).

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