I thought Hanifin wanted to be on the east coast

All fairly speculative. I haven't necessarily heard that but definitely could be a thing. Vegas is kind of a players haven though, can't be that hard to convince a 26 year old to live in Vegas for 8 years.

Yeah, maybe 🤔 Good Targets Anyways

Leafs aren’t paying a first for tanev if they were gonna they woulda already done it we’ve seen the flames selling early, if it costs a first to do business with the flames they’ll look elsewhere, im sure brad would like to be the gm for longer then 9 months lol

If it were up to me, it's a hard no from the Leafs. Wouldn't even do the 1st, let alone adding Tverberg.

Don't think that's true at all, why would the Flames take the first package they see involving a 1st pre-deadline? Also why would the Leafs offer a 1st off the hop without feeling out what they have, now they're in a position where the D needs clear upgrades because the roster is full of mushy AHL/NHL tweeners. If the Leafs want Tanev I bet it will be a 1st round pick because the pipeline sucks and they have no 2nd's

If the Leafs acquire Tanev I bet the 1st is involved because their prospects are not good and they have no other picks that would fit the deal.

It’s not happening the max they pay is niemela robo Timmins Abruzzese and the flames 5th for an unretained tanev

I'd bet it would be involved too. Which is part of the reason I hope they don't acquire him and why I specified my response as if it were my decision.

Niemela is fine but his development is a rollercoaster, Timmins is terrible, Robertson doesn't fit anywhere in the Flames pipeline and Abruzzese is going to be a ufa after next season. That's such a low value package it's insane. Its a bunch of spare parts that Leafs fans don't want so they keep adding them in packages pretending there is value. Why would other teams want Leafs leftovers?

lol I’ve had several flames fans say they accept when I posted it they even said it’s an overpayment

This could very easily be worse than trading the 1st.

No the first can easily be a better player then both it makes zero sense for this team to trade the first this year they aren’t winning anything

Never said the 1st couldn't be a better player. But it also very easily could be worse, or even potentially nothing. To say trading a 1st makes zero sense but trading two of our young players on the doorstep plus more is a-okay doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

This is wild.

Well then the NHL GM's must think exactly the same right? Just try justify the pieces:

Niemela - Good enough piece, looked significantly better in Europe than the AHL.
Robertson - In a system with Pelletier, Zary, Pospisil, Honzek, Coronato, Draft picks etc. all filling up the wings, where does Robertson fit? Especially when the Flames lack a ton of size already.
Timmins - Really bad at hockey, Leafs don't win when he plays, he had a flash in the pan last season after the trade and now he's back to exactly who the Coyotes thought he was.
Abruzzese - Flames lose him free agent before he does anything, why not just let the Leafs lose him for nothing next season?

Same question then.
Just try justify the pieces:

Niemela - Good enough piece, looked significantly better in Europe than the AHL.
Robertson - In a system with Pelletier, Zary, Pospisil, Honzek, Coronato, Draft picks etc. all filling up the wings, where does Robertson fit? Especially when the Flames lack a ton of size already.
Timmins - Really bad at hockey, Leafs don't win when he plays, he had a flash in the pan last season after the trade and now he's back to exactly who the Coyotes thought he was.
Abruzzese - Flames lose him free agent before he does anything, why not just let the Leafs lose him for nothing next season?

Well, your points about Niemela looking significantly better in Europe than in the AHL and the Leafs not winning when Timmins plays are just straight up falsehoods.

Robertson not fitting with the Flames is fine, never argued he did. But to call the package "low-value" "spare parts" and "leftovers" is crazy.

From a pure value standpoint, that package outstrips Tanev's worth.

What's their record with Timmins in the line up this year?

Abruzzese and Timmins are scraps, Robertson has more value in Toronto than in a trade because I don't think anyone around the league sees him as a piece they want to add to their line up at the expense of a valuable trade chip.

8-4-4 this year with Timmins (better pts % than the team has on the season), 17-7-1 last year. Has scored at a 40 point pace in his Leafs tenure.

Not saying Timmins is some super valuable piece, but he's not nothing, and certainly not "really bad at hockey"

Haven't said a word about Abruzzese.

That Robertson take is pure speculation that has kind of been disproven because we already know of one team that had/has significant interest in him.

Plus you've got Niemela and a 5th in there...

He had 9 points in 8 games last season, that like saynig Zadorov is a 14 goal scorer so his value should be higher when really he was average with a hatrick in game 82. As mentioned, he had a flash in the pan and has gone back to exactly the player that was traded for Curtis Douglas.

Holy smokes, way to not focus on the point at all because your overarching argument is non-existent. Like to cherry pick the 3rd or 4th most valuable piece in this hypothetical deal and say that he's actually not good because his scoring wasn't spread out enough and to level an extreme comparable after saying that he's really bad at hockey and the Leafs don't win with him in the lineup (not true)... this is getting ridiculous. Take care.

Ask the Oilers. Hyman, Brown, Ceci, Pickard, and Campbell are all current Oilers, Barrie was as of a year ago, and all 6 are former Leafs.