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STL Deal

Created by: MSZUDY21
Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 13, 2024
Published: Feb. 14, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. 2024 5th round pick (COL)
2.
PHI
  1. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
3.
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the TOR
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Logo of the OTT
2025
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Logo of the CHI
Logo of the TOR
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$83,418,712$0$0$81,288

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$3,571,429$3,571,429
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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Feb. 14 at 5:45 p.m.
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Parayko living off that rep from 4 years ago forever it seems, no matter how bad he declines
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Feb. 14 at 5:47 p.m.
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Please actually look at other posts from fellow Leafs fans

And you'll realize one very important thing....

STOP OFFERING FOR PARAYKO. This offer is a joke anyway
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Feb. 14 at 5:48 p.m.
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Parayko is awful. Please stop making 9 proposals for him a day. He has a bad back, and his contract is toxic. WE DONT WANT HIM anywhere near our Leafs! Especially not for that return! Liljegren is already better i mean look at his corsi!
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Feb. 14 at 6:01 p.m.
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You guys have a citywide problem.
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Feb. 14 at 6:02 p.m.
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Parayko is awful. Please stop making 9 proposals for him a day. He has a bad back, and his contract is toxic. WE DONT WANT HIM anywhere near our Leafs! Especially not for that return! Liljegren is already better i mean look at his corsi!


But but but but he could look good next to Reilly
Feb. 14 at 6:05 p.m.
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But but but but he could look good next to Reilly


His XGA is at an all time low and he turned 30 already. I dont want him anywhere near the Leafs. We lack defense but it doesn't matter because most of our defenseman can move the puck. Sure they are mistake prone at times, and can't really defend but it's better than getting a dinosaur like that.
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Feb. 14 at 6:09 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Parayko living off that rep from 4 years ago forever it seems, no matter how bad he declines


Hey, this is off topic, but you could tell us if Deadpool and Wolverine is a good movie? Tell us all about it, please.
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Feb. 14 at 6:12 p.m.
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Hey, this is off topic, but you could tell us if Deadpool and Wolverine is a good movie? Tell us all about it, please.


No idea, usually I cant watch movies that arnt even out for press release viewings yet. But like a hockey player, track record is a good early sign. If a movie series keeps up quality you can often bank on them being good in the future, but if they've been obviously declining for years then it's a pretty obvious sign that it's a bad bet, no matter what a few die hard fans say
Feb. 14 at 6:15 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
No idea, usually I cant watch movies that arnt even out for press release viewings yet. But like a hockey player, track record is a good early sign. If a movie series keeps up quality you can often bank on them being good in the future, but if they've been obviously declining for years then it's a pretty obvious sign that it's a bad bet, no matter what a few die hard fans say


Ohhh here I thought Leafs fans could know everything sight unseen by simply pulling it out of their rear.

My bad, I was confused. tears of joy
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Feb. 14 at 6:17 p.m.
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Ohhh here I thought Leafs fans could know everything sight unseen by simply pulling it out of their rear.

My bad, I was confused. tears of joy


what can I say, some of us actually watch the films and the games
Feb. 14 at 6:21 p.m.
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what can I say, some of us actually watch the films and the games


Yeeeah. Sure ya do, champ. tears of joy
Feb. 14 at 6:26 p.m.
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Yeeeah. Sure ya do, champ. tears of joy


well, you obviously dont. See, I have it on great authority that all you have to do is say someone doesnt watch the games and it invalidates their entire argument because that means you dont actually have anything to defend your point .
So, since I said I watched them first, you got nothing. Sorry, I dont make the AGM rules.
Feb. 14 at 6:51 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
well, you obviously dont. See, I have it on great authority that all you have to do is say someone doesnt watch the games and it invalidates their entire argument because that means you dont actually have anything to defend your point .
So, since I said I watched them first, you got nothing. Sorry, I dont make the AGM rules.


(sympathetic inhale through a gentle smile with gritted teeth)

Ooh. I think ya rushed it, champ. Next time slow down, take your time and put together something more compelling. I'll just leave you to that, best of luck.
Feb. 14 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
(sympathetic inhale through a gentle smile with gritted teeth)

Ooh. I think ya rushed it, champ. Next time slow down, take your time and put together something more compelling. I'll just leave you to that, best of luck.


the best part of this entire recurring bit is that you have literally never had a single bit of actual proof, evidence or anything to say about why Parayko is still good other than "I watch the games", and every single time when I point that out you just dive right into this nonsense. I mean, If he's so good there's gotta be something right? Like, I mean good players have good results right?
I guess you dont have to rush, or think at all when your entire thing is "I got nothing, but I know people will disagree with the Leafs fan no matter what"
Feb. 14 at 7:03 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
the best part of this entire recurring bit is that you have literally never had a single bit of actual proof, evidence or anything to say about why Parayko is still good other than "I watch the games", and every single time when I point that out you just dive right into this nonsense. I mean, If he's so good there's gotta be something right? Like, I mean good players have good results right?
I guess you dont have to rush, or think at all when your entire thing is "I got nothing, but I know people will disagree with the Leafs fan no matter what"


This is total BS. I've done the whole detailed and evidenced debate thing more times than I can count. Usually, you guys just say something like "I'm not reading all that!" I'm done explaining things to people who just cram their fingers in their ears and go LALALALALALALALA. But it's not even close to just me. Loads of people, including many non Blues fans, and even a handful of Leafs fans, tell you guys all the same stuff. And get all the same aggressive willful ignorance back, if anything at all.

Just stop flailing already. This entire thread is you guys talking about me. Untruthfully. And nothing else but me. Ditch the act. We've seen it too many times, it's just not as funny anymore.
Feb. 14 at 7:08 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
This is total BS. I've done the whole detailed and evidenced debate thing more times than I can count. Usually, you guys just say something like "I'm not reading all that!" I'm done explaining things to people who just cram their fingers in their ears and go LALALALALALALALA. But it's not even close to just me. Loads of people, including many non Blues fans, and even a handful of Leafs fans, tell you guys all the same stuff. And get all the same aggressive willful ignorance back, if anything at all.

Just stop flailing already. This entire thread is you guys talking about me. Untruthfully. And nothing else but me. Ditch the act. We've seen it too many times, it's just not as funny anymore.


No you havent. The most you did was extend "he plays a lot and the blues arnt good" with the "if you watch the games you'd know'
And then get huffy when actual statistics point out that he is getting crushed in tough comp and getting worse year by year.
But hey, a bunch of people who think guys like Gudbranson, chariot and savard are good agree with you so you must be correct
Feb. 15 at 7:20 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
This is total BS. I've done the whole detailed and evidenced debate thing more times than I can count. Usually, you guys just say something like "I'm not reading all that!" I'm done explaining things to people who just cram their fingers in their ears and go LALALALALALALALA. But it's not even close to just me. Loads of people, including many non Blues fans, and even a handful of Leafs fans, tell you guys all the same stuff. And get all the same aggressive willful ignorance back, if anything at all.

Just stop flailing already. This entire thread is you guys talking about me. Untruthfully. And nothing else but me. Ditch the act. We've seen it too many times, it's just not as funny anymore.


Quoting: JaredOfLondon
No you havent. The most you did was extend "he plays a lot and the blues arnt good" with the "if you watch the games you'd know'
And then get huffy when actual statistics point out that he is getting crushed in tough comp and getting worse year by year.
But hey, a bunch of people who think guys like Gudbranson, chariot and savard are good agree with you so you must be correct



Nah, it's more like..

> everyone else: "we don't really think Parayko is worth his contract, here's all the evidence as to why"
> mokumboi: "b-b-b-but... you guys don't watch him... you aren't hockey fans!!! something something"
> everyone else: ok

"This entire thread is you guys talking about me. Untruthfully. And nothing else but me".. gee, man, I wonder why. Self reflection abilities at 0
 
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