Why do Detroit or Vegas do these trades?

While both VGK and DET probably reject, I also don't see these as particularly useful for PIT either.

Easy no from VGK
DET could consider Graves

Not for that package

What package would you consider? I dont think we should be selling Graves after half a year at his lowest value imo but its clearly not worked like we envisioned it would although I do think Graves is still a decent hockey player and could be worth his cap...

It's not a shot at Graves, a down year is a down year and Detroit has seen plenty. It is a matter of what the team looks like when the Wings are competitive. Sprong has been exactly as advertised, and Maata is depth and injury insurance. I think Detroit tries to re-sign Sprong and moves Maata at the TDL or this summer as a piece of a bigger package.

One of Holl or Petry would need to be moved since Ghost and Chiarot both also play some RD and Edvinsson is knocking the door down to get called up.

Wings pass, as they have no need for a LHD and espicially one having a down year and with a lot of term

No I understand my friend. Was just wondering what a package for Graves might look like yall would accept or if there could be any interest on your end if he's the type of player you think would benefit DET for the right package. I think Graves is still a decent player but has not lived up to that with us. I feel the same about Reilly Smith. Idk if it's the system or what but both have been akward fits to say the least and underperformed like they are capable of imo...so if the package was right I would entertain moving either. In fact Smith with only 1 year left on his deal I think we need to move him if not at this deadline than around the draft for sure...

Honestly I have no idea. This is where fans and GMs think differently. For all I know, SY is perfectly content rolling out a right side of Seider/Ghost/Petry/Holl until the prospects are ready or he makes a splash with a trade (Graves or someone else) or in FA (Roy).

If they were out of the playoffs comfortably, and thought Graves would do well as the 2RHD behind Seider before becoming the number 3 (with cap rises he is priced very nicely) upon ASP's arrival.

I don't think this would be a bad idea at all. Swaps a LHD for RHD while allowing Edvinsson to possibly get a look sooner. Walman-Seider Ghost-Graves Chiarot/Petry'Holl would be an upgrade right away.

On the downside, it also would force SY to accept less or make an immediate move on one of Ghost, Chiarot, Holl (I think Petry wants to call it a career in DET) due to cap and this upcoming offseason.

Sprong and Maata obviously have ties to PIT as well so the familiarity would definitely help and I think it would benefit PIT.


Under those conditions I don't see it as a bad trade at all. As for now, just not a fit.

Even without Maatta Detroit still has too many LHDs and I can't see Yzerman taking on a player with 5yrs left on his contract.

Sorry, there is no quick fix for this year's pens.

If Yzerman liked Chiarot I can see him viewing Graves highly

That's the problem. We have Walman, Chiarot, Maatta, Gostisbehere as lefties in the NHL right now. Edvinsson that should be. Johansson should also be getting time. Makes no sense for us, especially at that cost.