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This team isnt going anywhere

Created by: Point21
Team: 2023-24 Tampa Bay Lightning
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 23, 2024
Published: Feb. 23, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$900,000
3$900,000
1$900,000
3$900,000
2$900,000
2$900,000
Trades
1.
TBL
  1. Brisson, Brendan
  2. 2024 1st round pick (VGK)
Additional Details:
Unlikely he waives but i know there was interest before and Tampa can retain half to make it work
VGK
  1. Stamkos, Steven ($4,250,000 retained)
2.
TBL
    Team doesnt matter
    ANA
    1. Sheary, Conor
    Additional Details:
    Either waive him or move him
    3.
    TBL
      Whoever for a draft pick or a D prospect
      4.
      TBL
        just get rid of him
        5.
        TBL
        NJD
        1. Hedman, Victor
        Additional Details:
        More of a draft day trade. likely wont be moved but see what his value is right now and he has a 10 team trade list
        Retained Salary Transactions
        Buried
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2024
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        Logo of the CHI
        Logo of the MIN
        2025
        Logo of the TBL
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        Logo of the TBL
        Logo of the TBL
        Logo of the TBL
        Logo of the TBL
        Logo of the MIN
        2026
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        20$83,500,000$62,495,831$0$280,000$21,004,169
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $9,500,000$9,500,000
        C, RW
        NMC
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $9,500,000$9,500,000
        RW
        NMC
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
        LW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $6,250,000$6,250,000
        C, LW
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $800,000$800,000
        RW, C
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $775,000$775,000
        LW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $3,150,000$3,150,000
        C, LW
        NTC
        UFA - 6
        Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
        $925,000$925,000
        C, LW, RW
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $800,000$800,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $800,000$800,000
        C, RW, LW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $775,000$775,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $828,333$828,333 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
        RD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $9,500,000$9,500,000
        G
        NMC
        UFA - 5
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $855,000$855,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
        LD
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $5,200,000$5,200,000
        RD
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
        G
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $762,500$762,500
        LD/RD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $762,500$762,500
        RD
        UFA - 1
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $776,665$776,665
        RW, LW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $2,665,000$2,665,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $8,500,000$8,500,000
        LD/RD
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $6,875,000$6,875,000
        RD
        M-NTC
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the Tampa Bay Lightning
        $775,000$775,000
        C, LW
        RFA - 1

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        Feb. 23 at 8:54 a.m.
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        Aside from maybe waiving Sheary/CDH, those moves are either unlikely(Perbix) or simply not happening (Stamkos and Hedman). Hopefully, JBB will add with some smart buys to boost depth at the deadline and give them the best chance possible this season.
        Feb. 23 at 8:55 a.m.
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        Quoting: JTBF81
        Aside.from maybe waiving Sheary/CDH, those moves are either unlikely(Perbix), or.simply.nit happening (Stamkos and Hedman). Hopefully, JBB will add with some smart buys to boost depth at the deadline and give them the nest chance possible this season.


        very unlikely Stamkos or Hedman get traded or even are on a different team at any point in their career but doesnt hurt to look
        Feb. 23 at 9:13 a.m.
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        Quoting: Point21
        very unlikely Stamkos or Hedman get traded or even are on a different team at any point in their career but doesnt hurt to look


        What do you think a Hedman trade would look like? To Devils or generally?
        Feb. 23 at 9:25 a.m.
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        Quoting: NHLfan10506
        What do you think a Hedman trade would look like? To Devils or generally?


        This is all hypothetical but... If BriseBois decides he wants to move out Stamkos and Hedman for whatever reason. I could see Hedman being a draft day trade (maybe even retain 50% for max value). his value right now is probably a later 1st / Early 2nd and a top prospect, 50% retained can fetch a high first round pick easily with the right team that needs him the most. obviously he is probably more valuable to Tampa than anywhere else. but if a dman like Buium/Silayev/Dickinson/Levshunov falls in the draft past 10. Hedman could be used to get one of those guys
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        Feb. 23 at 10:08 a.m.
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        Quoting: Point21
        This is all hypothetical but... If BriseBois decides he wants to move out Stamkos and Hedman for whatever reason. I could see Hedman being a draft day trade (maybe even retain 50% for max value). his value right now is probably a later 1st / Early 2nd and a top prospect, 50% retained can fetch a high first round pick easily with the right team that needs him the most. obviously he is probably more valuable to Tampa than anywhere else. but if a dman like Buium/Silayev/Dickinson/Levshunov falls in the draft past 10. Hedman could be used to get one of those guys


        My non-Lightning fan view from the outside….

        I am guessing if Stamkos moves, it’s more of a financial decision, that doesn’t really change the rest of the plan. Stamkos out, another guy in. Team approach remains. Still full speed toward win now.

        But if Hedman moves, that would appear to be more of a strategic change…retool…whatever one wants to call it. And would appear to be a move that aims to look at maybe extending window a couple more years.

        Does that sound right?

        So what would a TBL roster, without Stamkos and Hedman, need the most?
        Feb. 23 at 10:19 a.m.
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        My non-Lightning fan view from the outside….

        I am guessing if Stamkos moves, it’s more of a financial decision, that doesn’t really change the rest of the plan. Stamkos out, another guy in. Team approach remains. Still full speed toward win now.

        But if Hedman moves, that would appear to be more of a strategic change…retool…whatever one wants to call it. And would appear to be a move that aims to look at maybe extending window a couple more years.

        Does that sound right?

        So what would a TBL roster, without Stamkos and Hedman, need the most?


        That pretty much explains it perfectly. although Stamkos is a PP merchant at best now and anything more than 5m is overpay for him at this stage in his career but replacing his PP production will be hard as we dont have another righty to take is spot yet. Hedman is still a top 2 dman on any team and while he is slowing down, hes still puts up points so moving him would strictly be to retool and get younger.

        If Stamkos and Hedman were both to be gone by Preseason next year. i would say the biggest need is just a top 6 forward, a middle pairing dman, and usuful depth.

        Hagel Point Kucherov can run the first line
        Paul Cirelli ??? on the second line and then just find some depth guys (likely Syracuse call ups) that can fill the small holes in the bottom 6

        Sergachev likely takes Hedman's spot but after him our left side is majorly weak. the right side is "covered" but can be improved massively with Cernak being injury prone, and Perbix/Raddysh being 4/5 guys at best
        Feb. 23 at 10:34 a.m.
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        Quoting: Point21
        That pretty much explains it perfectly. although Stamkos is a PP merchant at best now and anything more than 5m is overpay for him at this stage in his career but replacing his PP production will be hard as we dont have another righty to take is spot yet. Hedman is still a top 2 dman on any team and while he is slowing down, hes still puts up points so moving him would strictly be to retool and get younger.

        If Stamkos and Hedman were both to be gone by Preseason next year. i would say the biggest need is just a top 6 forward, a middle pairing dman, and usuful depth.

        Hagel Point Kucherov can run the first line
        Paul Cirelli ??? on the second line and then just find some depth guys (likely Syracuse call ups) that can fill the small holes in the bottom 6

        Sergachev likely takes Hedman's spot but after him our left side is majorly weak. the right side is "covered" but can be improved massively with Cernak being injury prone, and Perbix/Raddysh being 4/5 guys at best


        Looking outside division at teams that would be competitive, could benefit from that type of move and have pieces to fulfill return…

        CAR, DAL, LAK, PHI, NJD, VAN

        Maybe MIN, PIT, STL, WPG

        Would be fun trade to work on (for ACGM).

        I think from Devils, the return would likely end up around Holtz, Toffoli, maybe guy like Gritsyuk depending on timing. And maybe Halonen, Filmon or Foote as extras. And LHD would likely be Bahl…maybe Siegenthaler…maybe younger depth guys like Hatakka, Misyul as extras. Too many of our best pieces are still very young and haven’t hit their peak yet.
         
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