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Created by: MTLaveragefan
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 23, 2024
Published: Feb. 23, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Change up the lines. Lets sink this ship.

3-way idea with Toronto and Arizona.

TORONTO GETS

Dumba @ $1,450,000 AAV
Allen

TORONTO SENDS:

2024 first round pick
Samsonov (cap dump)
Topi Niemelä

ARIZONA GETS
2024 first round pick
1M$ retained on Dumba

ARIZONA SENDS
Dumba (1M$ retained)

HABS GETS
Topi Niemelä
Samsonov
1.45M$ retained on Dumba

HABS SEND
Allen

Basically, Habs swap Goalies with the Leafs, and in exchange for picking up Allen's extra year, habs will retain 1.45M$ on Dumba (62% retained). and will take Niemela for facilitating that deal and picking up Samsonov.

Allen will be much better behind the leafs and he's got plenty of experience in the playoffs.

Habs will use Niemela in Laval to help out the team below.

TAXI SQUAD = WAIVER
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Dumba, Matt ($1,000,000 retained)
ARI
2.
MTL
  1. Niemelä, Topi
  2. Samsonov, Ilya
  3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. Dumba, Matt ($1,450,000 retained)
3.
MTL
ARI
  1. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the MTL
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Logo of the SJS
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the WSH
2025
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the CGY
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the PIT
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the VAN
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the DET
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
2026
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Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the MTL
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$71,080,416$1,170,000$4,060,000$12,419,584
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$775,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$3,550,000$3,550,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Feb. 23 at 10:31 a.m.
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Lmao Habs fans. Keep Allen. Not sure if you have been watching but Leafs aren’t dumping Samsonov.
Feb. 23 at 10:46 a.m.
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So Samsonov is a "cap dump", when last year he had better numbers then Allen and while having a nightmare start to this season has rebounded quite well since coming back to the team...to the point where his numbers are not a whole lot different then Allen's this year. This doesn't make any sense, also Samsonov is a UFA this summer and Allen has an extra year of term that Leafs don't need.

Keep dreaming, Leafs don't do any of this. You will be lucky to get anything for Allen.
Feb. 23 at 10:51 a.m.
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Quoting: CaptainTavares
So Samsonov is a "cap dump", when last year he had better numbers then Allen and while having a nightmare start to this season has rebounded quite well since coming back to the team...to the point where his numbers are not a whole lot different then Allen's this year. This doesn't make any sense, also Samsonov is a UFA this summer and Allen has an extra year of term that Leafs don't need.

Keep dreaming, Leafs don't do any of this. You will be lucky to get anything for Allen.


We are not getting anything really. But it's kinda worth it to get Dumba for dirt cheap. Hell, Niemila would probably end un in ARI anyway.
Feb. 23 at 10:55 a.m.
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Yeah, Ok, Sure buddy.
Feb. 23 at 11:05 a.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
We are not getting anything really. But it's kinda worth it to get Dumba for dirt cheap. Hell, Niemila would probably end un in ARI anyway.


Dumba is terrible
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Feb. 23 at 11:12 a.m.
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Quoting: Jonas_Seagull
Dumba is terrible


\_(\")_/ saw some Leaf fans that were interested on twitter and made this AGM while procrastinating at work.
Feb. 23 at 11:13 a.m.
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I honestly don't think I would trade any of those pieces individually for a package of Dumba and Allen.

I'd rather have Samsonov over Allen at this point
I'd rather keep a 1st over either Dumba and Allen
I'd rather keep Niemela over either Dumba and Allen

I get that there's value in adding a guy like Dumba at that cap hit....but this ACGM suggests you haven't been watching Samsonov or Dumba play much recently
Feb. 23 at 11:14 a.m.
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Quoting: Juice
I honestly don't think I would trade any of those pieces individually for a package of Dumba and Allen.

I'd rather have Samsonov over Allen at this point
I'd rather keep a 1st over either Dumba and Allen
I'd rather keep Niemela over either Dumba and Allen

I get that there's value in adding a guy like Dumba at that cap hit....but this ACGM suggests you haven't been watching Samsonov or Dumba play much recently


Which is a 100% accurate assumption lol.
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Feb. 23 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
\_(\")_/ saw some Leaf fans that were interested on twitter and made this AGM while procrastinating at work.


Fair enough, they think he’s still good but he isn’t
 
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