Doesn't kick in until July 1st when his new contract begins, as it currently stands his only trade protection is his M-NTC

Doesn't kick in until July 1st when his new contract begins, as it currently stands his only trade protection is his M-NTC

I don't think that's true. If he says he isn't resigning then they need to move him. Assuming they still want to compete in the short term Nylander is likely the best player anyone would offer them in return.

In terms of points only Kucherov, MacKinnon, McDavid, Pasta, Miller are ahead of him. Obvs Miller is on Van and the other 4 aren't being moved for Petty. Even looking at the rest of the top 25 in points Bratt at 23 and Verhaeghe at 24 are the only ones whose teams would consider moving them (even for Petty) so Nylander as the base of a trade should blow away most other offers.

I see where you are coming from but I don't think Marner needs to be the guy simply because nobody can top Nylander.

He's got a full NMC right now. Negotiated as part of the contract extension.

Not true. His contract extension retroactively added a NTC to this year. (It's actually a full NMC, but for our purposes it's interchangeable)

I feel like people often forget that the term "contract extension" isn't just a random phrase we use

Nope, it switched to an NMC the minute his new contract was signed.

I'd expect this to pretty much be the exact strategy. Not necessarily these players...but pick up a RD with at least some term (or who you intend to extend) at this deadline and then add another in free agency with extensions for Lilly and Benoit

Yea thats my thought rn

Prepare now and then set up for the future.

But the other idea which is starting to become more and more likely is this

TOR decides they want a forward and a Dman so goes to ANA or NSH and makes a deal for Novak + Fabbro or Henrique + Lybushkin

I understand your point but Nylander was just resigned. You’d be breaking the unwritten rule of trading players after signing them before they get a chance to play. It makes sense on paper but not in reality. Then again the idea of Petey to Toronto isn’t likely lol but still.

He would have to agree so I don't think its really a bad look. Again Vancouver asked Miller to waive last year before his extension kicked in. It's not a common thing but it's also not unheard of. Leafs have also broken these "unwritten" rules in the past. Think trading Richie a couple months after signing him as a UFA.

You are right that it would be weird but the main reason its an unwritten rule is cause it would make players less likely to sign for you. Given the circumstances (Nylander needing to waive/top 5 C coming back/8+year of playoff failures) it would be seen as a one off.

So idk about you guys, but I'm thinking our best bet is to move our 1st and niemela for Larsson half retained. I'd like b. Tanev too but he also need to be half ret and that just starts getting complicated fast

So idk about you guys, but I'm thinking our best bet is to move our 1st and niemela for Larsson half retained. I'd like b. Tanev too but he also need to be half ret and that just starts getting complicated fast

Thats what im thinking. Idk if SEA would retain a tonne but if u make the deal right I dont see why not. Look at NSH with Ekholm

Also been looking at if a Kartye for Robertson move is possible to. Still remember him last playoffs vs. AVS and DAL not a bad debut

Both be the same age but Kartye plays a bit more physical which increases viability for the B6. Hakstol also has familiarity with Robertson so it should be interesting.

I’m taking a pass on that. I’m not that sold on Larsson - at least not at that price.

Like rn im thinking


TOR sends: Robertson, Timmins, Niemela, 1st to SEA (Helps with ret), SEA sends Larsson (50% ret), Kartye, and a 4th back to TOR

He's up and down, but 2 years at 2 mil with his skill set net to mo could be nice, and if he manages to go up again I think we could really benefit

Can't imagine we'd need to send Robbie in that trade.

My original trade but add Kartye and maybe Timmins or a similar calibre piece should do it

So idk about you guys, but I'm thinking our best bet is to move our 1st and niemela for Larsson half retained. I'd like b. Tanev too but he also need to be half ret and that just starts getting complicated fast

Thats what im thinking. Idk if SEA would retain a tonne but if u make the deal right I dont see why not. Look at NSH with Ekholm

Also been looking at if a Kartye for Robertson move is possible to. Still remember him last playoffs vs. AVS and DAL not a bad debut

Both be the same age but Kartye plays a bit more physical which increases viability for the B6. Hakstol also has familiarity with Robertson so it should be interesting.

He's up and down, but 2 years at 2 mil with his skill set next to mo could be nice, and if he manages to go up again I think we could really benefit

Could be nice, sure, but if we’re including a 1st and Niemela I’m aiming higher, even if it means adding. Like that’s Muzzin/Ekholm territory and I don’t think Larsson is in that class tbh - I know he’d be much cheaper at $2m but still.

I don't think the guy you want exists on the trade market

I agree. But I’m not willing to pay the price for what I want while settling for less.

Super weird that this was brought up because I kid you not I made an ACGM team a few hours ago that saw Robertson, Timmins, and a few 3rds to Seattle for Larsson and Kartye. Also went ahead and got Toropchenko. I'd feel much better about trading for ANOTHER guy over 30 if we also got a younger guy attached to him in the form of Kartye.

Kept the ACGM in my drafts but I'll go ahead and post it