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50Leafs 2023 2024 Season Discussion Part 5 - TDL additions (Go Big or Go Small)

Mar. 6 at 8:34 p.m.
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Cowan extends his point streak to 30 games. Wonder what he'll be able to do with the Knights next season
Mar. 6 at 8:44 p.m.
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TOR looked good against BUF to start but man since after 15mins I have felt momentum has been more on Buffalo's side
Mar. 6 at 9:28 p.m.
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I have to be honest. I have zero faith in this team.

1st line is the worst iteration of that line in a while. Knies is going to be great but he's not a #1LW yet. Definetly not as good as Hyman or Bunting.

Second line is complete trash, Bert brings no physicality, goes missing for long stretches. Domi can't play defense and seems scared to shoot the puck. Nylander is playing great but he's carrying two duds.

Third line is great but not confident it's better than Knies-O'Reilly-Accari from last year. So still a downgrade.

Fourth line seems decent but not sure what the plans are for the playoffs is Reaves really gonna play 10mins/night in playoffs?

Rielly is still Rielly but Lybushkin looks horrible beside him (worried his poor stats that have him as a non-NHLer in Buffalo/Anaheim aren't because of the teams but because of him)

Brodie looks like a fine 2LD but like past playoffs he's not physical or imposing. Same for Lili.

Benoit/McCabe is a fine 3rd pairing

Seems like this team has little going for it. Likely the worse iteration in 5+ years and Tre's moves are all failing Benoit is likely the only one that has worked.

For me it's been 20+ years and it was hard living through the 2000s and 2010s but this is different this seems like they got lucky enough to draft a cup winning core but mid managed and mis coached for 5+ years and are just blowing it.
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Mar. 6 at 9:42 p.m.
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Sometimes has a bad game but gets the game winner

Thats Matthews for yah lul

Doubt they ever move him but Alex Tuch would look great here. He was just a menace tonight
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Mar. 6 at 9:47 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 6 at 10:07 p.m.
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Cowan extends his point streak to 30 games. Wonder what he'll be able to do with the Knights next season


He's one of my 2 untouchables

Only if Avs be stupid enough to give us Makar or EDM McDavid no interest in anyone else not even the man the myth the Dman of Dman Slavin lul


But hes having himself a season

5th in OHL point streak

1st in SHG in a season
Mar. 6 at 10:08 p.m.
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Got to give Sammy credit tonight did good

Now Woll needs a bounce back in the rematch vs. BOS

Good luck to him
Mar. 6 at 10:45 p.m.
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CGY be so petty they would rather lose every trade for Hanifin, Zadorov, and Tanev then make a deal with Brad

LUL
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Mar. 6 at 10:50 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 6 at 10:57 p.m.
Brad should be on the phone rn calling VGK about Hague

VGK now had 7 good Dman one will be a HS whose good and shouldnt be and that wont make em happy


If not buy low on Chycrun
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Mar. 6 at 11:08 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
CGY be so petty they would rather lose every trade for Hanifin, Zadorov, and Tanev then make a deal with Brad

LUL


Lili + Kampf for McNabb+Hague?

Makes loads of sense for vegas, then flip Brodie and find a RHD.
Mar. 6 at 11:11 p.m.
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Edited Mar. 6 at 11:28 p.m.
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Lili + Kampf for McNabb+Hague?

Makes loads of sense for vegas, then flip Brodie and find a RHD.


It makes 0 sense for them to do it

They have 0 need for Kampf or Liligren

And seems they didnt listen lul
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Mar. 6 at 11:12 p.m.
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It makes 0 sense for them to do it

They have 0 need for Kampf or Liligren


Now I could see TOR go get Hague or Whitecloud or both but it would be for a pick + prospect
Mar. 6 at 11:29 p.m.
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It makes 0 sense for them to do it

They have 0 need for Kampf or Liligren


Really? They currently have 9 NHL D (including Hanifin) and 2 are RHD.

So there is zero chance they trade Whitecloud.

If they swapped McNabb and Hague for Lili on the backend (Ignoring what we'd have to add upfront/ in futures) their D would be:

Theodore - Pietro
Hanifin - Whitecloud
Martinez - Lili

That is much better than

McNabb - Theodore
Martinez - Pietro
Hanifin - Whitecloud

Theodore has been pretty loud about not liking the right side and none of the other LD on Vegas have played the right for any extended period of time. As recently as yesterday in the Athletic he talked about how hard it is and how you can't play as well as a lefty on the right as one your natural side.

Maybe there is another move for them but they already have 7 guys who are arguably top 4 NHL D and if they want to maximize their top guy they need to add a RHD. So the deal makes sense if they also get back something else.
Mar. 6 at 11:31 p.m.
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Quoting: fangm
Really? They currently have 9 NHL D (including Hanifin) and 2 are RHD.

So there is zero chance they trade Whitecloud.

If they swapped McNabb and Hague for Lili on the backend (Ignoring what we'd have to add upfront/ in futures) their D would be:

Theodore - Pietro
Hanifin - Whitecloud
Martinez - Lili

That is much better than

McNabb - Theodore
Martinez - Pietro
Hanifin - Whitecloud

Theodore has been pretty loud about not liking the right side and none of the other LD on Vegas have played the right for any extended period of time. As recently as yesterday in the Athletic he talked about how hard it is and how you can't play as well as a lefty on the right as one your natural side.

Maybe there is another move for them but they already have 7 guys who are arguably top 4 NHL D and if they want to maximize their top guy they need to add a RHD. So the deal makes sense if they also get back something else.


As said before makes 0 sense for them. You have already seen your ACGM and their fans tell yah no on top of us.

Either we give up a nice pick and prospect for Hague or Whitecloud or both and wow them or its not happening

Dont know how its hard to understand

VGK would want nothing to do with Kampf or pending RFA Liligren. Theo has also been fine on his offside and has never said anything about it. If your talking about that recent article Makar, Dahlin and Rielly talked about it not him.
Mar. 6 at 11:37 p.m.
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Lmao. Vegas made up a trade condition that let's them trade the same pick twice.
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Mar. 6 at 11:38 p.m.
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Lmao. Vegas made up a trade condition that let's them trade the same pick twice.



Incoming Guentzel trade
Mar. 6 at 11:54 p.m.
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Would probs cost some picks and prospects but imagine Brad could get Hague and Whitecloud out of VGK

That would be sweet but also is really hard to see actually happening lul
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Mar. 6 at 11:57 p.m.
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Would probs cost some picks and prospects but imagine Brad could get Hague and Whitecloud out of VGK

That would be sweet but also is really hard to see actually happening lul


Probably be one or the other. They both check the boxes, granted Vegas has no real need to move them
Mar. 7 at 12:00 a.m.
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Probably be one or the other. They both check the boxes, granted Vegas has no real need to move them


Yea but who knows as there be a case for both, Hague once Martinez comes back may be in the pressbox and idk if he will like that and Whitecloud has been in the doghouse and they may go you know what lets move that 2.75m

They also have some prospects coming who have been itching specifically Korczak who looked good and could take Whitecloud's spot

Its tricky but if I were to lean I think there could be a strong shot at Whitecloud.

Who knows lets wait and see but those two I would be fine with a high pick for as both be young with term
Mar. 7 at 12:17 a.m.
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Still early but honestly would go to Boosh and say hey u want that extension we saw Bogosian and Miro sign for

As while its only been 3 games hes looked good with Rielly and its pretty much just showing Rielly loves these guys. Now I will look more into it in 7 more games but so far there be a case rn
Mar. 7 at 7:19 a.m.
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https://twitter.com/JeffMarek/status/1765712287799590985

@NorthernLeafsFan05 is in shambles
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Mar. 7 at 9:13 a.m.
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Actually found another team who does have a RD and PK forward but people wont like it

MTL

They have a surplus of D and some nice bottom 6 forwards but since they be a divisional rival I doubt we see anything


I've thought about that too... But the issue is that mean Savard and NTU to a 34 year old...

I think an Evans+Harris could work though
Mar. 7 at 9:24 a.m.
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Man jelly of Buffalo

They now have one of the scariest future Dcore's in the NHL

Byram
Dahlin
Power
Samuelsson
Jokiharju
R. Johnsson


Maybe that's why Brad was at all those BUF games... Knew there'd be a logjam there and wanted to see who to pick off?
Mar. 7 at 9:31 a.m.
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I have a bad feeling Libby's the only acquisition...

BRAAAAAAAAD!
Mar. 7 at 11:28 a.m.
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Leafs got edmundson
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Mar. 7 at 11:39 a.m.
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Leafs got edmundson


3 and 5.

We're just throwing away picks man. **** this had better work Istg
 
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