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Created by: DChase
Published: Feb. 27 at 9:52 a.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 51/192 (27%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the Calgary FlamesCalgary Flames

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Määttä, OlliCalgary FlamesNHL-$796,875011---5021012--
Brodie, TJCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,328,125011---5601616--
Tanev, ChristopherCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,195,313011---5511112--
Czarnik, AustinCalgary FlamesMinor-$0011---18011--
Hanifin, NoahCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,314,844011---58112233--
Vladar, DanielCalgary FlamesNHL-$584,375011-------3.210.89
Mangiapane, AndrewCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,540,625011---57112132--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Määttä, OlliCalgary FlamesNHL-$796,875011---5021012--
Määttä, OlliDetroit Red WingsNHL-$796,875011---5021012--
Brodie, TJToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,328,125011---5601616--
Czarnik, AustinCalgary FlamesMinor-$0011---18011--
Czarnik, AustinDetroit Red WingsMinor-$0011---18011--
Marner, MitchellToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$2,896,109011---56234972--
Fischer, ChristianDetroit Red WingsNHL-$298,828011---5521214--
Liljegren, TimothyToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$371,875011---4021416--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET)---100------
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$962,6582344654711
Change$1,068,345-1-1-1200
Final$2,031,003 (↑)22 (↓)43 (↓)64 (↓)6 (↑)71142125

Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDetroit Red Wings

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Määttä, OlliDetroit Red WingsNHL-$796,875011---5021012--
Czarnik, AustinDetroit Red WingsMinor-$0011---18011--
Fischer, ChristianDetroit Red WingsNHL-$298,828011---5521214--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Detroit Red WingsDET)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Brodie, TJCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,328,125011---5601616--
Hanifin, NoahCalgary FlamesNHL-$1,314,844011---58112233--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$3,000,2382346773613
Change-$1,547,2660-1-1-100
Final$1,452,972 (↓)2345 (↓)76 (↓)2 (↓)61371522

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Brodie, TJToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$5,000,000011---5601616--
Marner, MitchellToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$10,903,000011---56234972--
Liljegren, TimothyToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,400,000011---4021416--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Tanev, ChristopherCalgary FlamesNHL-$4,500,000011---5511112--
Vladar, DanielCalgary FlamesNHL-$2,200,000011-------3.210.89
Mangiapane, AndrewCalgary FlamesNHL-$5,800,000011---57112132--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$2,901,6662247622315
Change$4,803,000000-100
Final$7,704,666 (↑)2247621 (↓)315-13-47-60
Feb. 27 at 10:05 a.m.
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Lol I want whatever you are smoking to think the leafs are giving up that much for pennies on the dollar...
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Feb. 27 at 10:07 a.m.
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Fischer's one of those guys who has little to no trade value but plays his role well in Detroit, so I'm not sure why Detroit or Calgary would really want to include him.

... Oh my I just noticed the Toronto end of this. What the ****. tears of joy
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Feb. 27 at 10:09 a.m.
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Marner alone is worth more than everything TO is getting in this trade. Significantly more. TB paid 2 firsts and 2 players for Hagel. Maybe you could argue that Mangiapane is worth a first in trade. Tanev is worth a 2nd. Vladar maybe a mid tier prospect. Or a 3rd round pick. Marner is worth what? Probably something like 4 first round picks? Maybe 2 firsts, a high level prospect, and a current NHL player. You would have to take Liljegren and the first out of this deal. And send Marner and Brodie only. And the Leafs would need to get at least an extra first round pick on top of what they are getting. Maybe more.
Feb. 27 at 10:27 a.m.
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Marner alone is worth more than everything TO is getting in this trade. Significantly more. TB paid 2 firsts and 2 players for Hagel. Maybe you could argue that Mangiapane is worth a first in trade. Tanev is worth a 2nd. Vladar maybe a mid tier prospect. Or a 3rd round pick. Marner is worth what? Probably something like 4 first round picks? Maybe 2 firsts, a high level prospect, and a current NHL player. You would have to take Liljegren and the first out of this deal. And send Marner and Brodie only. And the Leafs would need to get at least an extra first round pick on top of what they are getting. Maybe more.


I'm guessing the OPs logic is that Marner is overpaid and being treated as a dump... I agree that he's overpaid, but holy **** is this bad lol.
Feb. 27 at 10:44 a.m.
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Lol no.
Notice that nobody in here is saying "Lol all Flames fans" though.
Feb. 27 at 11:54 a.m.
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Way way way to many moving parts. Just no.
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Feb. 27 at 12:17 p.m.
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Flames send out Tanev, Hanafin and Mangipane and come away with two 1st and Marner. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You my friend are an very optimistic, so wrong
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Feb. 27 at 1:00 p.m.
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Are you really a Calgary fan?

Detroit is the only team that accepts.
Feb. 27 at 1:46 p.m.
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Nobody is going to give you anything for the last year of Marner's inflated contract.

Quoting: mikearky
Flames send out Tanev, Hanafin and Mangipane and come away with two 1st and Marner. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

You my friend are an very optimistic, so wrong


Flames have ZERO interest in Marner and Marner won't waive for anyone anyhow. Nearly 11 mil AAV + UFA in 2025 means nobody is going to take him off the Leafs hands now.

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Lol I want whatever you are smoking to think the leafs are giving up that much for pennies on the dollar...


You couldn't be more wrong Calgary declines hard. Marner has almost no value without an extension and he can't sign one yet. Unless he takes a big haircut on his next contract he won't be worth near what Leafies think he is either.
Feb. 27 at 6:26 p.m.
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Nobody is going to give you anything for the last year of Marner's inflated contract.



Flames have ZERO interest in Marner and Marner won't waive for anyone anyhow. Nearly 11 mil AAV + UFA in 2025 means nobody is going to take him off the Leafs hands now.



You couldn't be more wrong Calgary declines hard. Marner has almost no value without an extension and he can't sign one yet. Unless he takes a big haircut on his next contract he won't be worth near what Leafies think he is either.


Just to clarify, Marner is worth a fair bit more than you seem to believe, hes a consistent point producer, topping a point per game in every season besides his first two (where he single handedly carried a mediocre line) and has been one of the best passers and PKers in the league the last few years. $10mil+ per year is the starting these days for those qualities.
Feb. 27 at 8:10 p.m.
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Just to clarify, Marner is worth a fair bit more than you seem to believe, hes a consistent point producer, topping a point per game in every season besides his first two (where he single handedly carried a mediocre line) and has been one of the best passers and PKers in the league the last few years. $10mil+ per year is the starting these days for those qualities.


No he isn't. He isn't worth much to anyone unless he comes with an extension and he can't sign an extension until after this season is over. No contender can afford his cap hit without full retention or Toronto taking a cap dump worth 6+ mil in return. Non contenders won't trade much for a guy they'd probably only have for the rest of this season + 1 more season.

On top of that he's probably going to want 12+ mil on his next contract. Maybe Columbus might be interested him then but Marner, little johnny and Laine on the same team would be an unmitigated disaster.
 
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