Can’t see the Canucks moving Hoglander

No pittsburgh. That isn't Happening with buffalo

carter will not waive nmc

Me neither.
Why would they do this trade?

1-4 could happen 5-7 I dont think so

He actually probably does for Philly. He met his wife when he was in philly and she has family outside of harrisburg.

The Vancouver and Buffalo trades are bad.

what do VAN offer for Jake?

In the Van trade, replace Mikheyev with Lekkerimaki
Mikheyev has negative value
Lekkerimaki is still in Europe
Van still has 4 top 100 prospects after the trade

Van does that? Pens fans will be happy.

yeah it would take Lekkerimaki instead of Mikheyev to make this work.

Look at it this way.

This trade as is right now is Hoglander for Jake 1 for 1. That's not a good trade for Jake.
the 1 is the cost to take Mikheyev. No one wants an over paid 3rd line winger for 2 years.
NSH just signed Novak for 3.5 and he's a better player. 4.75 x 2 just isn't happening for anyone.

At best it would be

PIT
Hoglander
Lekkerimaki
Mikheyev to make the cap work.
2025 1st

Van
Guentzel no retention from Pit. VAN pays 3rd team if they need retention.

Or throw in a 3rd or B prospect and the Pens eat 50%. I assume they're also going to sell Smith so they should have some cap space.

Vancouver isn't moving Hoglander, replace him with Räty and another mid pick and it's a fine deal for Vancouver

Pens would want 1 of Hoglander or Lekkerimäki.

Vancouver isn't going to move either of them for a rental who wants out of Pittsburgh

Wants out of Pittsburgh? LOL not sure were u got ur sources from but CAR/LVK will easily outbid the Canucks.

Why would we downgrade a pick to take Jeff Carter? He had no use for the team. You'd need to attach draft capital to convince us to take him, and even then highly doubt Carter waives.

Prob the fact he won't re-sign with the pens?