this is more of an overpay than the last one

Buch at half retained will cost a lot.

Would you make that trade if you had Parayko and Buchnevich? Knowing what you know about those Leafs pieces? There is not a single A asset in the bunch.

That conversation goes something like this:
GMBT: Doug got a trade for you says above.
GMDA: Seriously Brad, what do you really want or are you just wasting my time?

Leafs aren't trading for Gretzky and Orr here.

Careful with that logic, every non-Leaf fan thinks every player the Leafs are interested are that valuable and every Leaf asset is trash.

This doesn't get it done. Really don't think Leaf fans understand that Minten isn't a grade A prospect and that Robertson isnt close to being as valuable as they seem to think

No one said they were but they would they not be the best players moved so far at this deadline? Comparable to acquiring both Hanifin and Lindholm? This is basically the Lindholm trade with slightly better/further along prospects. To get two players you're playing at the top of your lineup? C'mon. I get Parayko comes with some risk and if he gets moved the value may end up being weird but it won't be THAT weird.

ur delusional

This comment would play a lot better if the Leafs were giving up either of their nationally ranked prospects in this proposed trade, and every leafs armchair-gm I see wasn't firing TJ Brodie into the sun. The 1st is more or less comparable to the first of any other contender's 1st and don't let anyone tell you different, but at the end of the day the Leafs aren't giving up anything else of needle-moving value here. Maybe you could talk me into Liljigren, a player I've got time for. But Fraser's ranked 4th or lower in every pool ranking I've seen and Robertson is just kind of a body quickly losing runway on becoming much more than that.

Parayko is not an asset Blues fans and Leafs fans think he is. He is a ticking time bomb contract wise. Older player who plays a tough physical game, who knows how his health will hold up? Is there even a market for him?

So the trade is really Minten, Liljegren and a 1st for Buch half retained and that's a respectable offer.

I said as much a comment or two up that I have no clue what the ultimate value on Parayko if he's traded would end up being. It would probably be weird. And I agree that whoever is dealing with that contract at age 34-37 is probably going to be in a world of hurt.

That said, there's a reason teams sign those contracts in the first place. If he was a pending UFA that signed with the leafs, I'm not sure how much less the contract would be- a year or two shorter and maybe a million less? That's not nothing but that's not much less of a troublesome deal.

At the end of the day though you're still putting him at the top of your lineup right now, because you need a guy there and he can do the job, at least for now. That's why those contracts get signed. That has to be worth more than a pending UFA that, again, EVERY armchair-gm has the leafs moving if they're adding big salary, and a guy who has 19 points on the season, bad contract or not. This is especially true if the Blues still think they can compete with Parayko (a belief I personally think is misguided, but I'm not the Blues so)

The Buchnevich offer- I feel like that's less than Vancouver gave up for Lindholm without retention. I guess your mileage on Kuzmenko compared to Liljigren might vary. But I think Buchnevich PLUS retention has to be worth more than Lindholm, even with the winger vs center thing. He's having a better year, and the term only helps a contender further in the future.

They're also not trading for Walker and Toffoli here.

I didn't think the payment limit was so low. fnf