The Tanner Jeannot Trade

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Created by: bolts03

Team: 2023-24 Tampa Bay Lightning

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 6, 2024

Published: Mar. 6, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

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Just one year out and this trade may be the one that sinks the hopes of a Tampa dynasty. This trade was bad from the moment it was announced. But as I think most Tampa fans did we said screw it who needs those picks this is our window those picks don’t matter. Now a year later not having a first round pick for the next two drafts was probably a big reason for why we didn’t land Hanifin. In five years when the whole draft class that Nashville was able to select through this trade has developed this trade may look so so much worse. I truly believe this trade has the chance to go down as one of the worst in the salary cap era.

As for the player, Jeannot is just fine and has a role on the team but for what was given up and his inability to stay healthy it just hurts so much.

JBB hit a home run with Hagel but other than that he has appeared out of his league with trades and contracts given out to declining assets.

(If he gets Chychrun I take it back)

Trades

TBL

Chychrun, Jakob ($2,300,000 retained)

OTT

Perbix, Nick
Thompson, Jack
2026 1st round pick (TBL)

Buyouts

Vincent Lecavalier: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Adam Henrique: $1,456,250 (50%)
Patrick Maroon: $200,000 (20%)

Buried

Philippe Myers: $250,000 ($1,400,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
22	$83,500,000	$78,610,415	$0	$137,500	$4,889,585

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Stamkos, Steven $8,500,000$8,500,000 LW, C NMC UFA - 1	Point, Brayden $9,500,000$9,500,000 C, RW NMC UFA - 7	Kucherov, Nikita $9,500,000$9,500,000 RW NMC UFA - 4
Hagel, Brandon $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Cirelli, Anthony $6,250,000$6,250,000 C, LW UFA - 8	Chaffee, Mitchell $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 1
Eyssimont, Michael $800,000$800,000 RW, C UFA - 2	Paul, Nicholas $3,150,000$3,150,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 6	Sheary, Conor $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW NTC UFA - 3
Motte, Tyler $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Glendening, Luke $800,000$800,000 C, RW, LW UFA - 2	Watson, Austin $776,665$776,665 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Hedman, Victor $7,875,000$7,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 2	Raddysh, Darren $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 1	Vasilevskiy, Andrei $9,500,000$9,500,000 G NMC UFA - 5
Chychrun, Jakob $2,300,000$2,300,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Cernak, Erik $5,200,000$5,200,000 RD UFA - 8	Johansson, Jonas $775,000$775,000 G UFA - 2
Lilleberg, Emil Martinsen $870,000$870,000 ($80,000$80K) LD RFA - 2	Crozier, Maxwell $867,500$867,500 ($57,500$58K) RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Fleury, Haydn $762,500$762,500 LD/RD UFA - 1	Jeannot, Tanner $2,665,000$2,665,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Sergachev, Mikhail $8,500,000$8,500,000 LD/RD UFA - 8
De Haan, Calvin $775,000$775,000 LD/RD UFA - 1		Seabrook, Brent $6,875,000$6,875,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 1
		Brown, Logan $775,000$775,000 C, LW RFA - 1

Mar. 6 at 11:20 p.m.

boltsfan71

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tampas not buying anymore

Mar. 6 at 11:20 p.m.

sens65

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That offer doesn't get you retention.

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Mar. 6 at 11:21 p.m.

bolts03

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Quoting: boltsfan71

tampas not buying anymore

I could see them buying if it sets them up for next year. Other than that I agree

Mar. 6 at 11:22 p.m.

boltsfan71

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Quoting: bolts03

I could see them buying if it sets them up for next year. Other than that I agree

Yea they’re planning to sell

Mar. 6 at 11:24 p.m.

LordStanlersCup

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I really hope we dont get chychrun but as for the jeannot trade I think it could go down as the worst trade of the cap era at the moment of the trade. Some trades have aged worse like the Huberdeau- Tkachuk deal or the Dubois trade but those trades were seen as closer when the trade was made. The second the Jeannot trade was announced everyone knew it was terrible. Some trades have aged really well for JBB but overall I can't think of a single trade that he didn't overpay at the time of the trade

Mar. 6 at 11:24 p.m.

bolts03

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Yea they’re planning to sell

Who do they sell? They have no assets worth anything that aren’t part of the long term plan.

Mar. 6 at 11:25 p.m.

boltsfan71

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Quoting: bolts03

Who do they sell? They have no assets worth anything that aren’t part of the long term plan.

Anyone’s available besides Kucherov hagel point sergachev and cernak and vasilevskiy

Mar. 6 at 11:26 p.m.

bolts03

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Quoting: LordStanlersCup

Spot on. At some point we have to start asking if he is the answer at GM moving forward. I don’t think we are there yet but another year or so of this might be it for him.

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Mar. 6 at 11:26 p.m.

Justafan79

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Quoting: sens65

That offer doesn't get you retention.

Put down the crack pipe

Mar. 6 at 11:28 p.m.

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bolts03

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Anyone’s available besides Kucherov hagel point sergachev and cernak and vasilevskiy

Problem is that outside of those guys nobody is worth more than a 6th round pick. And no they aren’t trading Stamkos or Hedman.

Mar. 6 at 11:29 p.m.

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boltsfan71

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Quoting: bolts03

Problem is that outside of those guys nobody is worth more than a 6th round pick. And no they aren’t trading Stamkos or Hedman.

Stamkos and hedman are most definitely available

Mar. 6 at 11:31 p.m.

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bolts03

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Stamkos and hedman are most definitely available

Stamkos would just block any trade with his full NMC. Hedman has plenty of game left in him on a good deal. Trading him doesn’t help Tampa.

Mar. 6 at 11:33 p.m.

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Quoting: bolts03

Stamkos would just block any trade with his full NMC. Hedman has plenty of game left in him on a good deal. Trading him doesn’t help Tampa.

Neither of them are getting resigned and stamkos is next to useless so might as well try to trade

Mar. 6 at 11:37 p.m.

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bolts03

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Neither of them are getting resigned and stamkos is next to useless so might as well try to trade

Personally I would be okay with being bad for a year or two in order for both of them to retire as Bolts. They given so much to this franchise I hope they never wear another jersey. 2026 could be a lottery pick at that point and we start the journey over again.

Mar. 6 at 11:37 p.m.

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boltsfan71

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Quoting: bolts03

Retire as bolts that’s ridiculous lol

Mar. 6 at 11:54 p.m.

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Best to put Boltsfan71 on ignore if you don't want your thread to quickly get derailed with baseless claims and very outlandish positions based on zero knowledge and/or evidence.

Mar. 7 at 12:07 a.m.

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JTBF81

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I'd do the trade from Tampa's view, but I have doubts that's enough for retention given the extra year he has on his deal.

Mar. 7 at 6:54 a.m.

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bolts03

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Quoting: boltsfan71

Retire as bolts that’s ridiculous lol

Kinda sounding like you aren’t a real “bolts fan” lol. Being as great as the Lighting have been this past decade is something we will likely never see again. It is what it is. Cherish the good times and honor two of the greatest players in not on Lightning but NHL history.

Mar. 7 at 7:36 a.m.

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athrin

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that dont get chych, OTT declines

Mar. 7 at 11:17 a.m.

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boltsfan71

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Quoting: bolts03

A lot of good players walk, it’s part of the sport it’s a business and they know that

Mar. 7 at 2:30 p.m.

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sens65

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Quoting: Justafan79

Put down the crack pipe

Would you trade Erik Cernak for Lassi Thomson, Jacob Bernard-Docker, and a 2026 1st?

Mar. 7 at 3:53 p.m.

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Justafan79

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Edited Mar. 7 at 4:03 p.m.

Quoting: sens65

Would you trade Erik Cernak for Lassi Thomson, Jacob Bernard-Docker, and a 2026 1st?

That would be a good question if the comparison was remotely close. Cernak is better, plays the more valuable position, and is locked up long term at a nice price.
He is locked in 6 years longer than Chychrun and every asset you named for Ottawa with the exception of the pick isn't close to being as good. So, to answer your question, no, ,but your question is an utterly moronic comparison..
Jack Thompson is a MUCH BETTER prospect than Lassi Thomson, Nick Perbix is Much better than JBD and the picks a wash. Assinine comparison.

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